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To: boatbums
Some have it in their heads that present day King James and related bibles are dependent upon Luther for their list of books. It's childish


65 posted on 12/01/2012 12:02:21 AM PST by BlueDragon (in essentials, unity; in doubtful matters, liberty; in all things, charity)
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To: BlueDragon
No, Luther denied that those books were equal to the rest of the Old Testament and wanted them removed. Instead, they remained with the others as and Appendix. The King James even included them until someone realized that they were printing Bibles with more pages than they need to because Protestants didn't accept those books as inspired Scripture. The portions of the New Testament he wanted removed remained with the rest of the New Testament and were not flagged as not being the inspired Word of God by anyone other than Luther in his own translation. They were not removed while the books of the Old Testament he disagreed with most certainly were.

What Luther disagreed with was separated from and the balance of the Old Testament and clearly delimited as not being a portion of the inspired works in the Bible. When publishers decided to increase their profit margins by printing Bibles without those books even as an Appendix doesn’t make any difference.

From Luther onward those books Luther disagreed with were clearly marked as not being inspired and as not being part of the Bible. Whether they were bound with many versions as an Appendix or not doesn't change anything. There may be a few dolts around who pretend that denying and teaching books aren't inspired and not part of the Bible isn't the same thing as removing them from the Bible, but such folks are just desperate for an excuse or they're a whole burger short of a Happy Meal.

67 posted on 12/01/2012 12:25:33 AM PST by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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To: BlueDragon; Rashputin
King James and related bibles are dependent upon Luther for their list of book

though the interesting thing is that the first editions of the King James Version did have the Apocryphas as did the Geneva Bible and Luther's Bible

it was only in 1644 when the Long Parliament forbade the reading of the Apocrypha (so government interference) when it was removed.

A classic case of modern-day government interfering in Christian matters

285 posted on 12/04/2012 5:25:47 AM PST by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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