The Disappearing White Catholic Voter

The Catholic Thing ^ | November 28, 2012 | George J. Marlin

[Running On Empty]

Hang in there, Unam

I,too, am a convert.

I encourage you to believe that, in spite of what seems so discouraging in statistics and reports from various sources, there are actually good things going on that are not yet fully manifested-—the yeast in the dough is quietly beginning to rise. The number of men entering the seminary is increasing. Some of the special, new congregations of religious sisters are growing so fast that they are facing some problems with housing. In my deanery, the five parishes have active Catholic schools, scripture study groups, and are able to have enough volunteers to maintain 24-hour Adoration chapels. Daily Masses—morning and evening-—in the 5 deanery parishes are well attended...at least 100 or more at each one.

I’m telling you the truth about where I live.

The Church has always gone through cycles of ebb and flow and I want to encourage you to believe that we may seeing a new springtime in the Church. Our numbers may be smaller (those darn statistics again), but the depth of faith and commitment will be strong.

Stay with us as it all unfolds and be a part of it. :-)

[scrabblehack]

650 * 365 * 4 = 949000. You could throw in another 650 for leap year.

Now yes, some are single, and there might be some couples that both served.

Or do you think the number is not right?
16 million in WWII, 5.7 million in Korea. Some have already passed. Some served in both wars.

[D-fendr]

The same could be said for the Disappearing White Protestant Voter, but it’s not as identifiable. Not all the white yutes voting for Obama came from Catholicism.

[Salvation]

8 out of 10 white Protestants voted for Romney...95% of black Protestants voted for Obama...

6 out of 10 White Catholics voted for Romney...75% of Mexican Catholics voted for Obama...

[ansel12]

So Catholics voted for Obama?

Catholics are the largest denomination, and Southern Baptists are the second largest, I know that in 2008, the Southern Baptist denomination voted 80% republican, and the Catholic denomination voted 54% for Obama.

[Unam Sanctam]

I hope you’re right. I know the Pope is taking measures to build for the long term, and that sadly we may need to go through a period where the Church becomes smaller but more faithful.

[QBFimi]

.

[kearnyirish2]

The subset of white male Catholics that dropped out of the work force are probably those looking for government work, but it isn’t for no reason - it is practically illegal to hire them.

[kearnyirish2]

Yes, the Church bears a lot of the responsibility for this. They distracted Catholic voters with issues like “social justice”, but those voters became very comfortable with picking & choosing and now can’t even be expected to attend Mass. Now the only people attending Mass are those orthodox Catholics that want to save their souls from Hell and women who think they’ll be the pastor someday...

The Catholic Church showed that it is safe for politicians to abuse the Church with NO repercussions; this doesn’t bode well for the future of the Church.

[kearnyirish2]

“Let’s not forget that “Catholics” started the French revolution with all its anti-Catholic violence. The same is true for the Spanish civil war during which many thousands of priests and nuns were slaughtered by “Catholics”.”

You need to study these events more carefully; both of them were persecutions of the Church that resulted in many martyrdoms. The revolutionaries in both had the elimination of the Church as a stated goal, and the reactionary forces to both were what restored the Church to some legitimacy (though it never really recovered in France). In Spain a large number of the “International Brigades” weren’t even Christian by birth, and the pilots and commissars sent by Stalin certainly weren’t; thankfully in the end Hitler & Mussolini stepped in to support people’s right to worship and own private property, and Franco was able to set thing right - and keep them “right” until his death in 1975.

To this day Americans that don’t know the history of the Spanish Civil War can’t understand why so many Europeans supported Hitler; they don’t understand that it was a choice between Hitler & Stalin, and they’d seen what Stalin had done in Spain (while they couldn’t foresee what Hitler would do beyond the military aid - Franco kept power to himself, and refused to become an Axis satellite).

[stonehouse01]

..”They don’t go to church...” There is a block of “Catholics” in the North East - Boston, Connecticut, Upstate New York (Hubbard and former Clark dioceses) where even the majority of Catholics who go to church cheerfully voted for Obama - having misguidedly been led to believe that “social justice” in the form of government welfare practices justifies voting for the democrat and trumps the killing of the unborn. My in laws are DAILY mass goers, live in Ct., and pulled the lever for Obama twice!! They are not alone in their “Catholic” peer group, either.

I hope (and pray) you are right in your confidence that faith filled Catholics overwhelmingly voted for Romney elsewhere in the country.

Sorry for the rant, clearly this subject upsets me (I am Catholic) - Faith filled Catholics should have overwhelmingly voted for Romney, and it’s a failure in leadership from the liberal Bishop hierarchy to have properly informed their flocks that one must never vote for abortion.

[stonehouse01]

“...most Catholics in the USA are a joke ...” see my post #31 ... It is discouraging!

[stonehouse01]

“...most Catholics in the USA are a joke ...” see my post #31 ... It is discouraging!

[stonehouse01]

sorry for the double post

[Ransomed]

“Romney lost all the Rust Belt states with large Catholic populations...”

According to NBCnews (uses edison polling), Obama lost the Catholic vote in OH, Pa, Mich., Fla, NY, Ct, Ia, NH, NJ, NC, Va, and Wisconsin.

Does anyone else find anything that looks different? I’d like to know where this guy got some of that stuff, in the first article he said he used edison as well.

FReegards, thanks for all the pings on FR

[Cronos]

Well, the Southern Baptists are closely distributed in the south

If you take Baptists as a whole, you'll see a much less % who voted for the GOP

however, 80% -- congratulations. It should have been 100% in your denomination just as it should have been 100% in The Church. 50% didn't vote for Obama this time around -- and that includes all the Catholic freepers here on FR

The fact that we didn't convince 50% of our fellow Christians and you didn't convince 20% of your denomination to vote GOP means that we all need to work hard -- you in your denomination, Lutherans etc. in theirs and Catholics in the Church

Why, I think even Mormons only 80% voted for the GOP -- I thought that was a shoo-in for 100%

[crosshairs]

The media love to lump all “Catholics” together to try and show a fissure between Catholics and their church.

Catholics on FreeRepublic try to lump all "Protestants" together.

[Cronos]

you are correct. It is wrong to lump various non-Catholic groups together. I refuse to use the “P” word as it lumps in groups who do not even agree on fundamentals — it is much easier to address Lutherans who believe in the True Presence in the Eucharist, separately from Presbyterians who don’t and both of these separately from Baptists who disagree with them on the efficacy of baptism and all three of these separately from Oneness Pentecostals who do not agree on the Triune nature ofthe Godhead.

[ansel12]

I’m not a Southern Baptist.

The Southern Baptist denomination, second only to the Catholic denomination, are 80% pro-life, republican voters, the Catholics are a pretty dependable pro-abortion voting democrat voting block.

We are importing millions of Catholics and we need to break the connection between Catholics and the democrat party, if America is going to survive.

[ansel12]

The media love to lump all “Catholics” together to try and show a fissure between Catholics and their church.

They count Catholics, Catholics counted as such by the Catholic church.