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To: Cronos; Colofornian
(Anabaptists emphasize that salvation is by grace through faith that works (notice it's not faith plus works.). They believe that at conversion God purges a person's past sins by Christ's blood and changes that person at his very core, freeing him from the enslavement of sin and enabling him actually to live a righteous life.... This is in contrast to the Evangelical view that justification is the result only of an accounting procedure in the books of Heaven that happens totally outside the person. According to this view, when a person says the sinner's prayer, his sins are deducted from his account, and Christ's righteousness is credited to his account instead.

Is this really what you believe is different about "Anabaptists" and Evangelicals? I don't know where you got this from, but it is WAY off. Evangelicals believe that salvation is by grace through faith that results in a changed heart and works are a sign of genuine faith. They believe that at conversion God purges ALL a person's sins - past, present and future - by Christ's blood and changes that person at his very core, giving him a new, spirit nature, freeing him from the enslavement of sin and enabling him actually to live a righteous life through the power of the indwelling Holy Spirit as well as him being justified, where Christ's righteousness is credited (imputed) to his account by faith. We also believe in "believer's baptism" instead of infant baptism. Now if the Anabaptists believed this, they were right because it is Biblical.

203 posted on 11/29/2012 11:26:21 PM PST by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: boatbums

Thanks for your well reasoned and informative posts covering factually a number of points relating to several belief systems that were a bit muddied until you weighed in.


204 posted on 11/29/2012 11:45:56 PM PST by Syncro (The Tea Party is Dead-->MSM/Dems/GOP-e -- LONG LIVE THE TEA PARTY!)
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To: boatbums
Really, you believe you now know everything about Anabaptists too?

Sorry but that is wayy off from what they believe

Why don't you actually read http://www.anabaptistchurch.org/ or indeed the Bible or anything before commenting on what you don't know?

207 posted on 11/30/2012 1:23:28 AM PST by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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To: boatbums
Really, you believe you now know everything about Anabaptists too?

Sorry but that is wayy off from what they believe

Why don't you actually read http://www.anabaptistchurch.org/ ?

The Anabaptist Church says

Anabaptist interpretation of Scripture is centered on the teachings of Christ and his call to discipleship. The rest of Scripture is then viewed through this lens and interpreted so as not to contradict the teachings of Christ, the head of the church.

This produces different conclusions than when interpretation is centered on the writings of Paul as often seen in Evangelical teaching.

A Christ-centered interpretation maintains that Christ's teachings can be followed with God's enabling grace and must be followed if an entrance into the kingdom of God is to be gained.

A Paul-centered interpretation tends to overemphasize man's sinful nature and makes man utterly helpless in the pursuit of good. Consequently, many of Christ's teachings are considered unattainable in the present. In fact, some who interpret the Bible this way postpone the validity of Jesus' teachings to some future time. God's mercy and forgiveness is emphasized in this system rather than careful obedience.
So the baptist Church says that it follows a Christ-centered approach whereas ahem r, according to the anaBaptists follows a Paul centered approach

hey - if you got an objection, take it up with the Anabaptists

208 posted on 11/30/2012 1:24:35 AM PST by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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To: boatbums
Here's more from the website

Evangelicals believe children are lost until they accept Christ. Their focus therefore is on getting the child saved. Many of their children will say the sinner's prayer by the age of 7. To me, child evangelism does not differ much from infant baptism.

you now want to argue with Baptists about what they believe?

Then go ahead and argue.

209 posted on 11/30/2012 1:27:15 AM PST by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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To: Natural Law; boatbums

NL — it’s incredible how people think they know more about say Baptists or Catholics than the followers themselves, right?


210 posted on 11/30/2012 1:28:29 AM PST by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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To: boatbums
boatbums: Is this really what you ... and you got...

now to quote you from another thread: Stop making this thread "about" another Freeper. discuss the Mormon plans for salvation and stick to the topic

222 posted on 11/30/2012 3:43:01 AM PST by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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