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Cardinal Dolan: US bishops won’t comply with Obama rule on birth control coverage in insurance
Cath News ^ | November 15, 2012

Posted on 11/16/2012 1:44:11 PM PST by NYer

A top American bishop said Tuesday the Roman Catholic church will not comply with the Obama administration requirement that most employers provide health insurance covering birth control.

New York Cardinal Timothy Dolan, president of the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops, said church leaders are open to working toward a resolution with federal officials, but will meanwhile press ahead with challenges to the mandate in legislatures and in court.

“The only thing we’re certainly not prepared to do is give in. We’re not violating our consciences,” Dolan told reporters at a national bishops’ meeting. “I would say no door is closed except for the door to capitulation.”

The bishops have been fighting the regulation since it was announced by President Barack Obama early this year. Houses of worship are exempt, but religiously affiliated hospitals, charities and colleges are not.

Obama promised to change the requirement so that insurance companies, not faith-affiliated employers, would pay for the coverage. But details have not been worked out. And not only the bishops, but Catholic hospitals and some other religious leaders generally supportive of Obama’s health care overhaul have said the compromise proposed so far appears to be unworkable.

Dozens of Catholic dioceses and charities have sued over the mandate, along with colleges, including the University of Notre Dame. The bishops have made the issue the centerpiece of a national campaign on preserving religious freedom, which they consider under assault on several fronts from an increasingly secular broader culture. The Department of Health and Human Services adopted the rule as a preventive service meant to protect women’s health by allowing them to space their pregnancies.

It’s unclear what, if any, influence the bishops have with the administration. [more]


TOPICS: Catholic; Moral Issues; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: contraception; hhs; obama; usccb

1 posted on 11/16/2012 1:44:18 PM PST by NYer
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To: netmilsmom; thefrankbaum; Tax-chick; GregB; saradippity; Berlin_Freeper; Litany; SumProVita; ...

Ping!


2 posted on 11/16/2012 1:45:31 PM PST by NYer ("Before I formed you in the womb I knew you." --Jeremiah 1:5)
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To: NYer

Go RCC! THIS is the way to go after Obama. The one thing they are very ill equipped to deal with is a principled refusal to do what they say.

This kind of open disobedience is more powerful than they realize. Obama and his regime count heavily on the bluff charge. An adversary that stands their ground will frighten them. Their only answer is massive lawsuits and law enforcent action against the Catholic church. They do not want to go down that road.
They call it “bad optics” of some such.


3 posted on 11/16/2012 1:53:33 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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A top American bishop said Tuesday the Roman Catholic church will not comply with the Obama administration requirement that most employers provide health insurance covering birth control.

New York Cardinal Timothy Dolan, president of the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops, said church leaders are open to working toward a resolution with federal officials, but will meanwhile press ahead with challenges to the mandate in legislatures and in court.

“The only thing we’re certainly not prepared to do is give in. We’re not violating our consciences,” Dolan told reporters at a national bishops’ meeting. “I would say no door is closed except for the door to capitulation.”

If the USCCB really wants to protest Obamacare, all they need to do is offer no-abortion, no-contraceptive health insurance to anyone on the open market. Make it like an HMO where everything is in-house: all-Catholic doctors, nurses, and hospitals, and no Federal funding or grants of any kind. Services are either offered as charity, or for a fee. Totally privatized, totally exempt for Federal control, available to anyone who agrees with the subscription terms (IMO no lawsuits would be near the top of my list).

I'd love to see that happen. I might even become a customer.

4 posted on 11/16/2012 2:02:16 PM PST by Alex Murphy ("If you are not firm in faith, you will not be firm at all" - Isaiah 7:9)
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To: NYer
And not only the bishops, but Catholic hospitals and some other religious leaders generally supportive of Obama's health care overhaul have said the compromise proposed so far appears to be unworkable.

Generally supportive of Obamacare? Gee what could go wrong?

5 posted on 11/16/2012 2:05:32 PM PST by HerrBlucher (Praise to the Lord the Almighty the King of Creation)
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To: NYer

I admire their stand.

My only small recommendations - always use the word “immoral” when referring to the birth control mandate. Every time that particular part of the mandate is mentioned, it should have that adjective in front of it.

People still view this as a political issue. That perception must be changed to the broad public.

The other is to co-opt the ideas of 1960’s civil disobedience. It something leftists understand and yet will have no answer for, now that they are, ironically, in the reversed position of pushing an unpopular and immoral program from a position of Federal Gov’t power.


6 posted on 11/16/2012 2:07:46 PM PST by PGR88
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To: NYer

The marxists in control deliberately let it come to this. Forcing Catholics to choose between their beliefs and jail. The marxists HATE the church, and this was done intentionally, with full awareness.

Will the marxists put bishops in jail? Yes. Will bishops go to jail? Yes. Will 0bama back down? I don’t know, but the confrontation will be fun.


7 posted on 11/16/2012 2:10:26 PM PST by I want the USA back
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To: PGR88
Good suggestion.

In that same vein, I now exclusively use the term abortion murder rather than just abortion.
8 posted on 11/16/2012 2:12:29 PM PST by jobim (.)
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To: NYer

NEVER surrender.


9 posted on 11/16/2012 2:15:52 PM PST by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: NYer

I continue to pray that they have the collective guts to go through with it ! Go RCC !!!


10 posted on 11/16/2012 2:19:47 PM PST by johnd201 (johnd201)
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To: NYer

God Bless Cardinal Dolan!


11 posted on 11/16/2012 2:43:53 PM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: NYer

But communion is still ok for the catholic legislators who voted for it.


12 posted on 11/16/2012 3:09:26 PM PST by ThePatriotsFlag
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To: ThePatriotsFlag
1 Corinthians 11:27 "Therefore whosoever shall eat this bread, or drink the chalice of the Lord unworthily, shall be guilty of the body and of the blood of the Lord."

I agree that they should be publicly excommunicated and don't understand why they haven't been. When I give it some thought, though, excommunicating them is an act of great mercy toward them that protects lying scum like Biden and the others from themselves.

Apparently no one even thinks about the non-Catholic majority in Congress who claim to be Christian and go along with abortion and everything else the fascist left has on their agenda. Have any of the non-Catholic majority in Congress who go along with abortion been stricken from the membership rolls of the Chruch they attend? Jimmy Carter bragged about being a Sunday School teacher and now has the Carter Study Bible out. Anyone ever toss him out of any non-Catholic church or even he wanted to participate in?

I'm not being snarky, either, I don't see why all sorts of Christians, Catholics included, aren't tossing Congress critters out of their congregations left and right.

13 posted on 11/16/2012 4:43:21 PM PST by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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To: Rashputin

I am afraid what people will remember most about Cardinal Dolan this year is his laughing at the Al Smith Diner with Obama just before the Election.


14 posted on 11/16/2012 5:13:06 PM PST by ardara
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To: NYer
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15 posted on 11/16/2012 8:00:21 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: jobim
In that same vein, I now exclusively use the term abortion murder rather than just abortion.

You understand exactly what I am talking about. Leftists euphemistically emphasize that abortion is "health care" - makes it sound almost pleasant. Time to take a legitimate page from that play-book.

16 posted on 11/17/2012 8:12:18 AM PST by PGR88
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To: DesertRhino

I’ll believe it when I see it.


17 posted on 12/08/2012 12:37:36 AM PST by michigancatholic
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