You keep printing incorrect stuff about my Church’s beliefs. For example, that Jesus Christ is not our (Mormons) Savior. That’s the biggest whopper! Also the stuff about Jesus not being the Creator. And on and on it goes.
You know what LDS Scripture is. You know what our Articles of Faith contain.
You keep condemning Mormons to hell - which of course is incorrect, too. That we are “lost” and need you to save us. Uh, hello! Jesus Christ is our Savior, thank you very much. I could go on and on.
You asked me to point to “incorrect” statements. Those are the biggest whoppers.
But cheer up, maybe you can get me banned/zotted for being a Mormon.
P.S. You can’t call us a cult anymore since the Rev. Billy Graham removed LDS from his ministry’s list of cults.
Sandy Graham never said mormonISM was not a cult, all he did was remove a web page .
Sandy you were never banned for being a mormon the admin has ready said that.
Sandy you have been given the words of your leaders, what you proclaim is simply not correct.
Sandy the teachings of mormonISM state ‘salvation after all you can do”, that is not Grace. No one can condem you to hell that is a free will choice.
Sandy show us why what we show you from your leaders words are not correct, prove it. Don’t just talk - prove it
Sandy Graham never said mormonISM was not a cult, all he did was remove a web page .
Sandy you were never banned for being a mormon the admin has ready said that.
Sandy you have been given the words of your leaders, what you proclaim is simply not correct.
Sandy the teachings of mormonISM state ‘salvation after all you can do”, that is not Grace. No one can condem you to hell that is a free will choice.
Sandy show us why what we show you from your leaders words are not correct, prove it. Don’t just talk - prove it
They keep printing things right from the horse's mouth, from Mormon official sources. How can those things not be Mormon belief? How else are we to know of your church's official beliefs, if it is not sourced from official sources? Are we supposed to believe you, a Mormon woman, instead?
Bring us examples from concrete sources, then the perpetual whining that your church is being misconstrued perhaps(?) could be established as justified. Can you do such? I mean, is it true you are a lawyer? I know of another lawyer that posts on RF threads. That dude rocks (he can make his case quite strongly)
For example, that Jesus Christ is not our (Mormons) Savior. That’s the biggest whopper!
Since that is the sort of thing which is difficult to both establish, and refute (for it is a matter of faith) I do see that held up by you habitually in effort to make your other overall claims. Like your repeated claim --- what many posters here show [print] are Mormon teachings --- are in some magic land somewhere over the rainbow, not "correct" in some way. I put it rudely like that, for you continually fail to bring real evidence to back your claims concerning the teachings themselves, which are the real issue, as evidenced by your own words, "They keep writing stuff that is incorrect".
You know what LDS Scripture is. You know what our Articles of Faith contain.
Yes, that's the problem? They know it and quote it, linking to texts, linking to discussions both old and current (like the article at the top of this thread) by which it is demonstrated that not only what you try to portray here as "incorrect stuff" IS NOT incorrect much at all, for when we find the matters in modern discussion, based on Mormon theological works --- how can any sane person say "that's incorrect"? "that's not what the church teaches"?
If you were pressed to argue your case in a court-of-law (somewhere far enough away from SLC for the Court to be disinterested) could you successfully make the case that Mormonism is being maligned on these threads? What evidence would you be able to bring? So far, all I see is is evidence of whining, and your own opinions concerning the matter.
let me guess here...will I receive yet another post from you proclaiming Jesus is your Savior? Ok fine. I'm happy for you. But what does that have to do with;
and how such claims are simply not true
The issue isn't "you" or what you believe. The issue is what your church teaches. Perhaps you're in a congregation which clings strongly to some unadulterated King James version (not a Joseph Smith version of a King James, but something more in tune with a "revised standard" edition), and keeps the Book of Mormon on a back shelf gathering dust, along with writings such as Doctrines & Covenants, and is sliding towards more mainstream Christian belief & teaching. If so, then keep traveling, ye heretic. As a special added bonus, you won't need depend upon some fallible man which you marry (and tell me ladies, are any of your husbands infallible? that's what I thought you'd say, lol) to "call your name" so that you may enter in, to that place which is the Lord's after your time on this earth is done. Which takes us back to the subject matter of this thread.
WHAT EXACTLY concerning this telestial/terrestrial/celestial Mormon teaching, has anyone posted "incorrect" stuff about? To save time, and to keep the focus on the "they" which you mention, lets limit the inspection to what the "Inmans" have posted. You know who "they" are, don't you?
P.S. You can’t call us a cult anymore since the Rev. Billy Graham removed LDS from his ministry’s list of cults.
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Sandy you keep deliberately misrepresenting the facts in order to claim the LDS church is not a cult. EVERY time I see this, I will respond and correct you. Perhaps you will get it and quit lying.
First of all, Billy Graham doesn’t speak for all Christians, second the removal of the ENTIRE list of cults (he did not remove just Mormonism) doesn’t change the fact that Mormonism is a cult.
Sandy is promoting the false intimation that Graham no longer believes Mormonism is a cult. That is not true. From Eric Johnson.
“We called the BGEA on October 24 and talked to a representative. When we asked if the media were putting words into BGEA’s proverbial mouth—that “Mormonism was no longer a cult”—the spokesman fully agreed that the BGEA’s action was being misinterpreted. He added that nowhere did the association ever make such a statement. According to Ken Barun, “We removed the information from the website because we do not wish to participate in a theological debate about something that has become politicized during this campaign.”
It can be debated whether this move was the wisest decision. In hindsight, the BGEA leadership must now understand that taking the article down created much more of a stir than if the article had just remained on the site. By deleting it, the media was able to twist this action into saying that Billy Graham must somehow no longer think that Mormonism is a cult. This simply is not the case.
http://www.mrm.org/billy-graham-mormonism-christianity
BGEA still considers Mormonism a cult.
Also the stuff about Jesus not being the Creator.
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Did He create ex nihilo?
Apparently Graham did not remove Mormons from a list of cults, his ministry just took the list down.
I have asked you twice without a reply: Was Jesus self-existent from all eternity past?
If your answer is no, then your Jesus Christ is an impostor and savior of nobody.
No I don't!
Post it where I've done that!
No I don't!
Post it where I've done that!
I keep posting what YOUR 'prophet' has said; and YOU just ignore it!
That's like saying your tens of thousnads of 'missionaries' can't claim that CHRISTIANITY is apostate, because you MORMONs don't speak of it publicly on your website.
SD you still haven't told us if you have truly repented because your mormon jesus cannot save you in your sins.