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To: Saundra Duffy; Colofornian; reaganaut

I post these graphics because:

(1) I have heard what former ldsers and what well-read researchers have said about lds beliefs., i.e. the lds believes that God did not create everything out of nothing.

(2) I have had CURRENT lds people tell me that what I am saying is true, but that I shouldn't say it, because they feel uncomfortable about discussing the issue and its implications.

(3) I believe that God's WORD is living and eternal and that He can use it to scrape away false doctrines from the souls of people.

(4) I post these because the false doctrines of human pre-existence and of eternal marriage are FALSE. They are useful hooks to get people to stay in the lds, but those doctrines are USELESS.

Why?

(A.) They diminish the creative power of God, that He created our spirits out of nothing, and

(B.) the eternal marriage doctrine defames and contradicts the teaching that Christians WILL be married in eternity. We will be married to Christ .... but NOT to each other.

70 posted on 11/14/2012 2:38:35 PM PST by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: fishtank

I am a Mormon and you are preaching a FALSE doctrine about my Church. Just because you said it - doesn’t make it so. My personal Testimony of the Gospel of Jesus Christ is everything to me. My Church teaches that Jesus Christ is the Great Jehovah of the Old Testament and the Savior/Redeemer of the New Testament. Since Jesus Christ is the Great Jehovah of the Old Testament, then if A = B and B = C then A = C. Besides, Jesus Christ suffered and died for me. Amen.


72 posted on 11/14/2012 3:34:49 PM PST by Saundra Duffy ( For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: fishtank

When I was at BYU, I took a senior seminar on ‘topics in LDS theology’. The ENTIRE class was how God the Father was NOT omnipotent (could not create or destroy matter), NOT omnipresent (had a body of flesh and bones) and NOT Omniscient (because he was still progressing).

The end of the class was about the time I was starting to leave the LDS and I had to write a paper for the class and I remember the first line of my paper was “Well, YOUR God may not be Omnipotent, but MINE is” then did a biblical study on the the power of God debunking all I had learned in that class.


77 posted on 11/14/2012 5:24:42 PM PST by reaganaut (Kyrie eleison...Christe eleison...Kyrie eleison)
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To: fishtank

Ironically, the pre-1990 temple endowment had this bit about God, given by the ‘preacher’ hired by Lucifer to teach Adam and Eve about religion.

Do you believe in a God who is without body, parts, or passions; who sits on the top of a topless throne; whose center is everywhere and whose circumference is nowhere; who fills the universe, and yet is so small that he can dwell in your heart; who is surrounded by myriads of beings who have been saved by grace, not for any act of theirs, but by his good pleasure? Do you believe in such a great being?

http://ldsendowment.org/paralleltelestial.html (NOT an ‘anti site’ but put up by faithful LDS).

The irony is it is a pretty good description of the Christian view of God.


78 posted on 11/14/2012 5:29:58 PM PST by reaganaut (Kyrie eleison...Christe eleison...Kyrie eleison)
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