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To: GiovannaNicoletta
The philosophy of the supposed Christian doctrine of " FREE WILL " came from the Greek pagan philosophy: autonomous; autonomy; independent from.

THE only time IF there ever was that mankind had any real " free will " was when Adam and Even chose to be autonomous, independent from God's grace and yet rather chose the law, the knowledge between good and evil.

They chose to be independent from, autonomous ( that's what " FREE WILL " means ) of God's grace and chose for themselves what is good and evil.

But ?
God had to set up his own standard " the law " to show what is good and evil, to show what " SIN " is.

Saint Paul said that he would not have known what " SIN " is if it was not for the " LAW " to show him, convict him of what is wrong.

But ?
The law can not, nor ever can be the means that any man can be made righteous or justified in God's eyes.

If ?
The law could have made man righteous ?
Justified in God's eyes ?
Then ?
There would have been no need of the temporary sacrificial system of the blood atonement of bulls and goats that had to be performed year after year.
ACTS 13:39

NIV

39. Through him everyone who believes is set free from every sin, a justification you were not able to obtain under the law of Moses.

KJV

39. And by him all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses.


Don't know how that Greek pagan philosophy of " FREE WILL " autonomous; autonomy, independent from, crept into the church.

God never called us to be " autonomous " or " independent " of him and from him... that's what free will means... to be autonomous from something, independent from.
48 posted on 11/11/2012 8:40:13 PM PST by American Constitutionalist
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To: American Constitutionalist

I think we must have “free will” to choose God and that is basically all we have to do for salvation. If we choose God and His plan, which, of course includes Jesus, we believe and if we really believe, we trust. It is that trust that saves us. When we put ourselves in God’s hands, we are seldom dissappointed and when things don’t seem to be working the way we think they should it is particularily important to rely on God. Your faith will be rewarded.


60 posted on 11/16/2012 9:34:18 AM PST by Josephat
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