White Horse Prophecy [Mitt's Loss brings obvious conclusion that Mormon leaders falsely prophesied]

When I was training to be an LDS missionary, I was given a list of ...

Didja get this OTHER list as well???

The Rules

Learn and obey all missionary rules.
Keep your thoughts, words, and actions in harmony with the gospel message.
Read only books, magazines, and other material authorized by the Church.
Don't debate or argue.
Center your mind on your mission.
Dress conservatively. Elders: white shirts, conservative ties, and business suits. Sisters: conservative colors and skirts that cover your knees. No floor-length skirts or dresses.
Cut your hair regularly.
Keep your hair clean and neatly combed at all times in the approved style.
Be neat and clean.
Bathe frequently.
Use deodorant.
Polish your shoes.
Iron your shirt and business suit.
Arise at 6:30 A.M.
Study for 2 hours every morning.
Proselytize for 10 hours between 9:30 A.M. and 9:30 P.M.
Turn off your lights at 10:30 P.M.
Exercise regularly.
Write in your journal regularly.
Follow the "Missionary Gospel Study Program" (31157) for your personal study.
Regularly study the Missionary Guide and the Discussions.
Attend Sunday priesthood or Relief Society meetings, Sunday School, and sacrament meeting.
Attend the general session of Stake Conference.
Attend general conference broadcasts if available.
Avoid all other church meetings unless you have a special assignment or are brining an investigator.
Proselytize as much as possible on weekends and holidays because this is when you'll find people home.
End your preparation day at 6:00 P.M. and proselytize from 6:00 P.M. to 9:30 P.M.
Wear your missionary uniform in public on preparation day while not engaged in recreational activities.
Arise at 6:30 on preparation day and study for 2 hours from the approved books.
Take care of your physical preparation for the week on preparation day: wash your clothes, clean your apartment, wash your car, get your haircut, and shop for groceries.
Write to your parents every week on preparation day.
Write less frequently to your siblings, friends, and acquaintances.
Don't communicate with any friends or acquaintances that are within or close to your mission boundaries, except as a part of official mission business.
Plan safe, wholesome, and uplifting activities for preparation day.
Stay with your companion during all activities.
Do not go on road trips.
Do not leave your assigned area without permission
Do not watch television.
Do not view unauthorized videocassettes.
Do not listen to the radio.
Do not listen to unauthorized audiocassettes or CD’s.
Do not participate in musical groups.
Do not participate in athletic teams.
Do not sponsor athletic teams.
Do not engage in contact sports.
Do not engage in water sports.
Do not engage in winter sports.
Do not engage in motorcycling.
Do not engage in horseback riding.
Do not engage in mountain climbing.
Do not embark on a private boat.
Do not embark in a private airplane.
Do not handle firearms.
Do not handle explosives.
Do not swim.
Do not play full court basketball.
Do not play basketball in leagues.
Do not play basketball in tournaments.
You may play half-court basketball.
Never be alone.
Seek advice from your mission president if your companion is "having difficulties".
Be loyal to your companion.
Ask your mission president for help if your companion doesn’t obey the rules.
Pray with your companion every day.
Study with your companion every day.
Plan your work with your companion every day.
Take time at least once a week for companionship inventory.
Seek to be one in spirit and purpose and help each other succeed.
Always address your companion as Elder or Sister.
Sleep in the same bedroom as your companion.
Do not sleep in the same bed as your companion.
Do not arise before your companion.
Do not retire after your companion. (apparently, being together is more important than getting the correct amount of sleep that your unique body requires.)
Frequently study with your companion the Missionary Guide section on companions.
Never be alone with anyone of the opposite sex.
Never associate inappropriately with anyone of the opposite sex (conversely, they don't mention whether or not it is against the rules to associate inappropriately with anyone of the same sex).
Do not flirt.
Do not date.
Do not communicate via phone or letter with anyone of the opposite sex living within or near mission boundaries.
Do not visit a single or divorced person of the opposite sex unless accompanied by a couple or another adult member of your sex.
Try to teach single investigators in a member’s home or have missionaries of the same sex teach them.
Always follow the above rules, even if the situation seems harmless.
Use the commitment pattern to get referrals from members.
Keep your dinner visits with member briefs and during the customary dinner hour in the area.
Remember to say thank you to those who feed you.
Visit members and nonmembers only at appropriate times.
Do not counsel or give medical treatment.
Do not stay in the homes of people when they are on vacation.
Only write letters to family members and friends at home.
Do not telephone parents
Do not telephone relatives.
Do not telephone friends.
Do not telephone girlfriends.
Contact your mission president in case of an emergency.
Take problems and questions to your mission president.
Do not write to the President of the Church or to other General Authorities. Letters from missionaries to General Authorities are referred back to the mission president
Respect the customs, traditions, and property of the people who you are trying to convert.
Obey all mission rules.
Obey the laws of the land.
Do not get involved in politics.
Do not get involved in commercial activities.
Do not give any information about the area.
Respect the customs and cultures of those who you are trying to convert to your own customs and culture.
Respect the beliefs, practices, and sites of other religions.
Do not say or write anything bad about the political and cultural circumstances where you serve.
Do not become involved in adoption proceedings.
Do not suggest or encourage emigration. (This rule is a bit ironic, given the now-defunct doctrine of gathering the believers to Zion)
Be courteous.
Provide community service.
Do not provide community service that isn’t approved by your mission president.
Do not provide more than 4 hours a week of community service.
Do not provide community service during the evening, weekend or holidays—those are peek proselytizing times.
Your mission president must approve your housing.
Keep your housing unit clean.
Do not live with single or divorced people of the opposite sex.
Do not live where the spouse is frequently absent.
Your living unit must have a private bath and entrance.
You may occasionally fast for a special reason, but generally the monthly fast is sufficient.
Do not fast longer than 24 hours at a time.
Do not ask friends, relatives, and members to join in special fasts for investigators.
Maintain your health.
Eat a healthy diet.
Sleep from 10:30 to 6:30.
Follow the approved exercise program.
Keep your body, clothes, dishes, linens, towels and housing unit clean.
Dispose of your garbage properly and promptly.
Follow the safety rules for all of your stuff.
Seek medical care if you are in an accident or become sick.
Be immunized.
Spend your money only on things relating to your mission.
Budget your money carefully.
Keep a record of what you spend.
Do not spend more than your companion.
Do not loan money.
Do not borrow money.
Keep a reserve fund of $50 to $100 at all times for transfers.
Pay your bills before leaving an area.
Pay cash for all resale literature and supplies ordered from the mission office.
Do not waste money on souvenirs.
Do not waste money on unnecessary items.
Be a frugal photographer.
Do not accumulate excess baggage.
Obey custom laws and regulations.
Pay fast offerings each fast Sunday to the bishop or branch president where you serve.
Pay tithing on outside sources of income (i.e. interest) to your home bishop or branch president.
Evaluate your funds a few months before the end of your mission. If you have more than you need, ask that less be sent so that you can return home without excess money.
Do not drive without a license.
Drive only Church-owned vehicles.
Do not drive members’ cars.
Do not drive nonmembers’ cars.
Do not give rides to members or investigators in Church-owned cars.
Use cars only on approved mission business.
Use cars only within the assigned geographical area.
Be conscious of safety at all times.
Drive defensively.
Wear your seat belt.
Pray for the Lord’s protection while driving.
If your companion is driving, assist him or her.
Do not tamper with the vehicle’s odometer.
Know bicycle safety rules.
Use extreme caution on your bicycle.
Do not ride your bicycle after dark.
Do not ride your bicycle in heavy traffic.
Do not ride your bicycle in adverse weather conditions.
Go directly to your new area when transferred.
Find your new companion without delay when transferred.
Have a maximum of two suitcases and a briefcase.

141 posted on 11/10/2012 4:38:40 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)

I’ve read it.

Chilling!!

142 posted on 11/10/2012 4:40:15 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)

Sadly, more people would rather be praised into Hell; than rebuked into Heaven.

I agree.

143 posted on 11/10/2012 4:41:16 PM PST by dragonblustar (Allah Ain't So Akbar!)

Because you’re confusing the White Horse Prophecy with what was actually said in all those addresses over the years.

Yup!

Them darned ANTIs are confounded all right!!

--MormonDude(I'm almost over the fact that Mitt lost...)

The

DOCTRINE AND COVENANTS

OF THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS

SECTION 71

Revelation given to Joseph Smith the Prophet and Sidney Rigdon, at Hiram, Ohio, December 1, 1831. HC 1: 238–239. The Prophet had continued to translate the Bible with Sidney Rigdon as his scribe until this revelation was received, at which time it was temporarily laid aside so as to enable them to fulfill the instruction given herein. The brethren were to go forth to preach in order to allay the unfriendly feelings that had developed against the Church as a result of the publication of some newspaper articles by Ezra Booth, who had apostatized.

1–4, Joseph Smith and Sidney Rigdon are sent forth to proclaim the gospel; 5–11, Enemies of the saints shall be confounded.

1 Behold, thus saith the Lord unto you my servants Joseph Smith, Jun., and Sidney Rigdon, that the time has verily come that it is necessary and expedient in me that you should open your mouths in proclaiming my gospel, the things of the kingdom, expounding the mysteries thereof out of the scriptures, according to that portion of Spirit and power which shall be given unto you, even as I will.

2 Verily I say unto you, proclaim unto the world in the regions round about, and in the church also, for the space of a season, even until it shall be made known unto you.

3 Verily this is a mission for a season, which I give unto you.

4 Wherefore, labor ye in my vineyard. Call upon the inhabitants of the earth, and bear record, and prepare the way for the commandments and revelations which are to come.

5 Now, behold this is wisdom; whoso readeth, let him understand and receive also;

6 For unto him that receiveth it shall be given more abundantly, even power.

7 Wherefore, confound your enemies; call upon them to meet you both in public and in private; and inasmuch as ye are faithful their shame shall be made manifest.

8 Wherefore, let them bring forth their strong reasons against the Lord.

9 Verily, thus saith the Lord unto you—there is no weapon that is formed against you shall prosper;

10 And if any man lift his voice against you he shall be confounded in mine own due time.

11 Wherefore, keep my commandments; they are true and faithful. Even so. Amen.

144 posted on 11/10/2012 4:42:26 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)

"By 1993, my grandfather was on his last mental and physical legs, being in full decline on both counts.

He exhibited only brief moments of awareness of his surroundings and was unable to carry on meaningful conversations, including with members of his own family.

Benson or Hinckley??

"I Don't Know..."

In case you don't recognize the title of this post, it is part of President Hinckley's answer to a reporter's question that appeared in the August 4 1997 issue of Time magazine. The reporter referenced the King Follett discourse. The answer supplied and the manner in which it was delivered caused the reporter to draw some false conclusions about a very important doctrine.

In that discourse, the prophet Joseph Smith said, "If the veil were rent today, and the great God who holds this world in its orbit, and who upholds all worlds and all things by His power, was to make himself visible—I say, if you were to see him today, you would see him like a man in form—like yourselves in all the person, image, and very form as a man." (See also D&C 130:22)

The article referred to Lorenzo Snow's couplet, "As man is now, God once was; as God now is, man may become." The reporter said, "God the Father was once a man as we are. This is something that Christian writers are always addressing." President Hinckley was then asked, "Is this the teaching of the church today, that God the Father was once a man like we are?"

The bothersome reply

"I don't know that we teach it. I don't know that we emphasize it. I haven't heard it discussed for a long time in public discourse. I don't know. I don't know all the circumstances under which that statement was made. I understand the philosophical background behind it, but I don't know a lot about it, and I don't think others know a lot about it."

The reporter wrote, "On whether his church still holds that God the Father was once a man, he sounded uncertain." That's an unfortunate conclusion. Of course I wasn't at the interview and neither were you but I'll bet the reporter mistook careful thoughtfulness for uncertainty. This doctrine is indeed deep territory and not something that is taught outside the LDS Church.

An earlier and similar interview

The San Francisco Chronicle, published an interview with President Hinckley in April of 1997. The reporter asked, "There are some significant differences in your beliefs. For instance, don't Mormon's believe that God was once a man?" President Hinckley responded, "I wouldn't say that. There is a little couplet coined, 'As man is, God once was. As God is, man may become.'"

He then said, "Now that's more of a couplet than anything else. That gets into some pretty deep theology that we don't know very much about." The reporter pounced on this. "So you're saying that the church is still struggling to understand this? " President Hinckley responded, "Well, as God is, man may become. We believe in eternal progression. Very strongly."

President Hinckley's response

President Hinckley said in October 1997 General Conference: "I personally have been much quoted, and in a few instances misquoted and misunderstood. I think that's to be expected. None of you need worry because you read something that was incompletely reported. You need not worry that I do not understand some matters of doctrine.

"I think I understand them thoroughly, and it is unfortunate that the reporting may not make this clear. I hope you will never look to the public press as the authority on the doctrines of the Church." And there lies the whole point of my post today. Some members did indeed become a little concerned by the exchanges they read in the press reports of those interviews.

Does the Church still teach this?

I know this is old news but it still bothers some people when they discover the anti-Mormon attacks floating around on the Internet. President Hinckley was right. We really don't know much about how our Heavenly Father became a God. The idea that he passed through a mortal probationary state like you and me is certainly not documented in any scripture of which I know.

However, it is still taught. In the Gospel Principles manual in the chapter on exaltation we read, "Joseph Smith taught: "It is the first principle of the Gospel to know for a certainty the character of God. . . . He was once a man like us; . . . God himself, the Father of us all, dwelt on an earth, the same as Jesus Christ himself did" (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, pp. 345-46)."

Summary and conclusion

I don't know why this should bother anyone. The doctrine is true. Joseph Smith knew a whole lot more about this than I do. President Hinckley also knew a whole lot more about this doctrine than he was willing to share with reporters who did not have the background to understand it. It must have been difficult for President Hinckley to hold back and not teach it in those interviews.

It didn't bother me when I read the interviews back in 1997 and it doesn't bother me today. However, I know it does bother some people. We each have trials of our faith. I have never depended on an intellectual understanding of the gospel in order to accept it and live it. There are some things that just can't be fully comprehended without the temple, prayer and faith.

There are some things that just can't be fully comprehended without the temple, prayer and faith.

145 posted on 11/10/2012 4:44:38 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)

Did not know Reid was a convert.

thnx

146 posted on 11/10/2012 4:47:04 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)

To: Jim Robinson

My position stands. The so-called book of Mormon is false gospel, ie, fiction. It has nothing whatsoever to do with Christianity or the Word of God.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXh7JR9oKVE

147 posted on 11/10/2012 4:53:41 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)

Not all of those people are bad of course, some are just misguided.

Just as are most ensnared in mormonISM today.

If you are a MORMON; you are either deceived; or one of the deceivers.

148 posted on 11/10/2012 4:55:48 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)

Marco Rubio is headed to Iowa. I understand he was a Mormon at one time. He converted, I believe.

From age 8 to age 12, Rubio got caught up in Mormonism, but by age twelve, he returned to Christianity

Being eight years old and having to deal with whatever the adults were doing around him, and then feeling called back to Christ at the still very young, boyish age of 12, is inspirational and positive.

149 posted on 11/10/2012 4:58:06 PM PST by ansel12 (Todd Akin was NOT the tea party candidate, Sarah Steelman was, Brunner had tea party support also.)

islam and mormonISM both lead the soul to hell - how is one more troublesome than the other?

My HEAD!!

My precious HEAD!!!!!

Revelation 20:4 KJV

And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

150 posted on 11/10/2012 5:01:57 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)

To: Jim Robinson; greyfoxx39

Didn’t consider you would actually answer this and it caused me to donate again.

That’s twice in one day!

151 posted on 11/10/2012 5:08:53 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)

That’s fair on amnesty - we need a real debate. I like Rush’s idea - build the fence, citizenship for all 11 mil BUT they cannot vote for 25 years.

Problem is, that 11 million number is a joke.

That number has been holding at that level for more than 5 years, and it was joke then, and the mean time, our border has been wide open.

I live in Santa Ana, CA, the belly of the beast where Illegal Immigration is concerned.

I can tell you from personal experience, just by the illegals in Orange County, those numbers are off by at least 3 times that amount.

152 posted on 11/10/2012 5:10:33 PM PST by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency.)

To: Tennessee Nana

But while women have full rights under the Constituion, Mormon males STILL mamge to refuse them equal rights in their religion..

How do Mormon women attain Heaven? I've heard different accounts, one of which is that their husbands must call them there, using their secret names. Any truth to that?

I'm not trying to "stir the pot", it's a serious question.

153 posted on 11/10/2012 5:24:40 PM PST by Holly_P

The White Horse prophecy isn’t about Mitt! Its, Glen Beck! He will save the nation in 2016.

154 posted on 11/10/2012 5:32:46 PM PST by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)

Now we need to pray for a revival in this country.

It would not be unprecedented. The people of Nineveh repented and were spared. We need a modern day Jonah.

155 posted on 11/10/2012 5:33:40 PM PST by Holly_P

To: Holly_P; greyfoxx39; svcw; reaganaut

Yes its true

The husbands all rise from their graves first and if they want to they call their wives out by using a new name given to her at ‘the veil’ when she ‘went through the temple’

If he thinks she was not a worthy wife he doesnt have to call her...

or for any other large or trivial reason...

IOW the husband is her ‘savior...her ‘lord’ as Brigham Young put it...and not the Mormon jesus...

when you consider that each worthy temple Mormon male is going to have multitudes of other ‘wives’ all young and virgins and get his own planet to ‘lord’ over as the god there...the chances of his wanting to take alone a woman who was old and wrinkly the last time he saw her are slim..

so ‘salvation’ or ‘atonement’ as the Mormons call it in the Mormon after life is mighty chancy if you are just a female..

thats a big reason the wives in Utah are all smily and happy looking and uncomplaining and Stepford Wifesish and the state is the leader in Prozac and other mind altering perscription drugs..

if you beleived that way and your salvation depending on your husbands good opinion of you and you didnt know any better wouldnt you be the good little Molly Mormon too ???

Ive PINGed some FReepers who know more...

156 posted on 11/10/2012 5:40:27 PM PST by Tennessee Nana

To: DaveMSmith; svcw

And that has WHAT to do with Rubio??

There are heresies in many places, not just Mormonism.

157 posted on 11/10/2012 6:03:41 PM PST by reaganaut (Kyrie eleison...Christe eleison...Kyrie eleison)

Do you really think he is that stupid? IIRC William Jennings Bryant was the last loser that tried again after he lost.

Unless he's elevated to a leadership position in SLC, I think there's a 50/50 chance he will try again. Maybe by then his staff will have figured the internet out.

158 posted on 11/10/2012 6:10:19 PM PST by greyfoxx39 (We told you Mitt couldn't win.)

To: Holly_P; Tennessee Nana

I’ve heard different accounts, one of which is that their husbands must call them there, using their secret names. Any truth to that?

- - - - -
Yes, it is true. Men and Women are given a ‘new name’ in the temple (they use the same names for all men and women any given day, and rotate through about 20 names all from the Bible - Sarah, Naomi, Rebekah, Noah, Gabriel, etc). If you forget your ‘new name’ you can ask someone and they will tell you, but most LDS think that their ‘new name’ is only theirs and don’t realize everyone else going through that day for their ‘endowments’ have the same name.

When they are given their new name they are told not to tell ANYONE except for that day, at a certain place in the ceremony.

For the men, they give their ‘new name’ at the veil to ‘god’, for women going through with their soon to be husbands (if they are getting married or sealed that day or the next), the woman gives their name to their husband instead of God (at least when I was LDS). I have heard that now, if you go through and aren’t getting married you give your name to ‘god’ too for women, but to your husband if you are getting married.

Men know their wife’s ‘new name’ but the wife will never be told her husband, this is because women are called from the grave by their husbands, but husbands are called from the grave by god. (I am using lower case purposely because it is a false god).

One thing I find funny is imagine the confusion during the resurrection all these Rebekkah’s how do you know which one is you?

Here is a link to more info...

http://utlm.org/onlineresources/resurrectwife.htm

159 posted on 11/10/2012 6:11:57 PM PST by reaganaut (Kyrie eleison...Christe eleison...Kyrie eleison)

Interesting, I don’t see him trying but we will see. And I think a place among the GA’s is his for the taking come next year.

160 posted on 11/10/2012 6:16:56 PM PST by reaganaut (Kyrie eleison...Christe eleison...Kyrie eleison)

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