Posted on 11/03/2012 2:39:32 PM PDT by tflabo
A well-known Bible-code researcher has bad news for Barack Obama, as he claims hidden texts in the Holy Bible indicate Mitt Romney will be America’s next president.
Moshe Aharon Shak, an orthodox Jew and author of “Bible Codes Breakthrough,” has produced a series of videos on YouTube with his modern analysis of Scripture.
For those not familiar with Bible codes, they are said to be secret messages embedded in the Torah, the first five books of the Old Testament.
(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...
Nonsense is not “rational.”
Deal with reality or go to bed, but don’t lie.
I couldn't agree more...which is why I don't give credance to absurdities such as the Bible Code.
http://www.csicop.org/si/show/hidden_messages_and_the_bible_code/
>> “Who decided that every 9th letter on every 4th page or whatever would be it?” <<
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You obviously have not done due dilligence on this.
The codes were found by exhaustive search of digital copies of the Masorite text. God had to have selected them.
The fortune telling nonsense is from after-the-fact search of events that are known, not done in advance of any event.
Its nonsense and wishful thinking by those that have no idea what God’s word is.
The codes are undeniable (the real ones).
They are in the text, and were found by computer search.
After the book was published, charletans tried to foist false examples fron other texts to ‘disprove’ them but all of the examples of more than four characters were proven to have been achieved by altering the subject texts.
You, being of similar mind, got bit. Go suck your wounds.
Good article. Still if we were to believe in the existence of the ‘Bible Codes’, then we must take another step and assume that placing such codes in the text would have to affect the contents of the text, that is its veracity. That is to say, in order to make the Codes work, God, or whoever wrote the Bible, had to adjust the content, change it to fit the puzzle and thus make it less reliable as it would have been as a straight narration. Have the cake or eat it, dear believers in superstitions of this nature.
The book of Genesis is particularly well-studied in this regard and for a very long time. All the names of the Biblical Patriarchs are encoded in Genesis in the same manner.
So, while I grasp the source of the controversy, I do not grasp the derision. This is not new. In the modern era, some liken the purpose of it to a check sum, an authentication. Some say it's the book sealed unto the end times.
Regardless, it's to me an interesting puzzle. The surface text is vastly more important, but this is far beyond random chance and is there for a purpose.
We do not know just what that purpose is intended to be. Speculation could be a bad thing, but that should not stop further research into the matter, and has not.
Here is a pretty fair summary of the last decade or so, covering both the pros and the cons, for those who might have an interest:
http://unitedisrael.org/blog/2009/11/19/bible-codes-looking-back-a-dozen-years/
What it isn't is a means of predicting the future. The few examples of codes that appeared to have done so are the very rare exception.
Yeah? Well, my I-Ching reading says “The unyielding tiger bows to the phlegmatic river.”
So there!
You posted this same crap yesterday.
Want to bet if there is a fourth?
mmm...
I thought all good Christians know the Septuagint is the God-given text of the Bible, and that the Masoretic text was the edited version made up by Jews a mere thousand years ago.
That would mean those ‘codes’ are a Jewish invention, probably intended to denigrate Christianity!
You speak nonsense.
>> “What it isn’t is a means of predicting the future.” <<
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Obviously, since you’d have to know what to look for, and even the most educated sage would have to fall down in that regard.
How many Levite scribes conversed in Greek?
Did YHWH give Moses tablets in Greek?
I’ve been disappointed that the controversy and the derision has hooted down any further discussion of the particulars, here, the more accomplished codes people have fallen out of the habit of publishing anything that might appear predictive, for one due to the controversy it engenders but also because the vast majority of them believe it isn’t intended to be used for that purpose and that a partial matrix will be misleading and potentially wrong due to the nature of the information. This includes Mr. Shak himself, if I’m not mistaken.
He is an Orthodox Jew and takes the matter seriously, so seriously that the popular subculture that has sprung up around the Bible Code is verging upon offensive to him and he would be very wary of feeding it.
I’m dissapointed that context in Deuteronomy has not been discussed at all due to the shouting down that has occurred. It took place on the Plains of Moab. Anyone familiar with Utah in the least, their ears should perk up. Mr. Shak no doubt knows this, it’s another fascinating detail from how many thousands of years ago, that appears to reference the modern era as a result.
The primary reason, at least as I suspect, that he chose to weather the uproar and go public with this is the appearance of a gauntlet being thrown down from Mt. Sinai. The election would appear to be a referendum on Mormonism after all, meaning that it’s Romney’s choice to make. Follow the commandments of God, do not stray from them and do not follow other strange gods, and you will be President.
This could be taken to mean that he has followed the commandments and does not follow strange gods, if elected. It could be taken to mean that he did not follow the commandments and does follow strange gods if he isn’t.
As I said before, it’s very striking. Very. It seems to me that this is why Mr. Shak chose to publish and risk ridicule. Simple matrix involving a very small amount of plain or surface text though it is, it’s one of the more elaborately contextual ones I’ve ever seen.
That was deemed important enough to go ahead and do it. Published.
We’ll see.
The most significant work on the codes was the book “Bible Code Bombshell” byEdwin Sherman, Nathan Jacob, and Dave Swanty. Sherman is a mathematician, and Jacob a physicist.
Jacob was able to find long, contextually significant sentences embedded in Isaiah 53, and Psalm 22. The codes primarily prove that the entire Old Testament is totally about Yeshua, and his life here on Earth.
There are many long codes beside the above noted.
Men have longed to be able to predict the future, but that is the sole purvey of God. He has told us what we need to know, and knowing more might well be counter productive.
Breifly revisiting this, Mr. Shak did jump the gun in publishing his findings. Time will show his efforts to have only produced a partial matrix, imho.
Comments regarding the conditional aspect of the plain or surface text of Deuteronomy 28:13-14 in which this matrix was found in relation to the codes themselves remain very striking, albeit even more controversial at this point given the loss.
Any opinions? I am also aware of unpublished matrices that speak of Obama winning reelection with something profoundly negative occuring as a result. As always, there is the likelihood of this having been misinterpreted due to incomplete information as well, which is the reason so many accomplished codes people avoid publishing anything that appears predictive. It clearly was not intended for that purpose. But, people do keep trying.
I can only repeat my comment:
The Lord has repudiated sooth sayers, and the only prophecy that he has given us is from the mouth and pen of his prophets.
Just finding something in ELS doesn’t make it fact.
Apologies to my fellow FReeps for posting threads about Bible code numerology experts interpreting a Romney victory from passages in Deuteronomy. I repent of that false carpola....
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