Posted on 10/24/2012 2:03:23 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
Colorado evangelical pastor Ted Haggard, who was involved in a sex and drug scandal six years ago, appears to have changed his earlier position against same-sex marriage.
In an online debate, he said while biblical law is against homosexual marriage, the state should allow it. "We've reached a point where human dignity and mutual respect is so important," Haggard said in a recent online debate with Rabbi Benjamin Hecht, director of Orthodox Jewish think tank Nishma.
Responding to the question, "Should same-sex marriage be allowed by the state?" he went on to say, "If someone is dealing with same-sex attraction or homosexuality, and they want someone to be their life partner of the same gender, though we would oppose that in our churches, it should be allowed by the state."
Haggard shared this view during the debate, hosted on deeyoon.com, while maintaining that God intends marriage to be between a man and a woman. He said the roles of the state and religious communities are different. "The state's role is to protect people equally," he emphasized.
In January, when Haggard appeared on an episode of ABC's "Wife Swap," he said he was "hesitant" about same-sex marriage. He said he was against gay marriage and rewriting the traditional definition of marriage, but that he was in favor of allowing civil partnerships and welcomes everyone into his church.
Haggard, previously the head of the National Association of Evangelicals (NAE), was also pastor of New Life Church in Colorado Springs, the 14,000-member church he helped found. He was forced to resign from both positions after a gay prostitute came forward in 2006 and alleged that Haggard had paid him for sex and illegal drugs for three years.
sorry, pastor. learn how to control your hormones
(everybody has to, in one way or another)
or go live with your boyfriend and hang up your preaching hat
We have laws such as DOMA protecting traditional marriage. IT DOES NOT make being gay or having gay sex illegal.
What Haggard is proposing would be making it legal (but its not currently illegal) thus legitimizing it.
That is the whole intention of the gay community. To legitimize their actions and lifestyle.
I think we should look at what is entailed by the term — LEGAL.
If by LEGAL, one means -— Not prosecutable under law, then there are many acts that are unbiblical but not prosecutable in the United States (unless we want to be a theocracy ).
Not believing in One God and having gay sex in the privacy of one’s house are just two of those that God will punish and judge someday, but the state should not prosecute (unless of course, we want America to be a theocracy).
However, there are also things that can be made LEGAL that REQUIRE people of faith to recognize and even PAY FOR with their own money.
Gay Marriage and Abortificents and Condoms for healthcare are but two of them.
Being LEGAL in the sense of not prosecuting and being LEGAL by requiring people to CELEBRATE and RECOGNIZE what their faith tells them is sinful are two different things.
Christians do not object to NOT prosecuting certain acts that even they find unbiblical. It is REQUIRING them to recognize and pay for such acts that they find abhorrent and rightly so.
(In an online debate, he said while biblical law is against homosexual marriage, the state should allow it. “We’ve reached a point where human dignity and mutual respect is so important,)
What does dignity and respect have to do with allowing perverts to marry?
So he’s saying that mutual respect is more important than what the Bible directs.
It is the correct title, a different source and posted after the four hour limit for duplicate threads.
Oh,
My bad.
I thought redundant stories were locked down.
Are the guidelines you posted above just for the RF or for all of FR?
It applies to all of FR.
Capital punishment for sodomites is BIBLICAL, Ted. (Leviticus 20:13 if you have a Bible).
We know from Hebrews 9 :10 that only laws relating to “meats, drinks, and divers washings, and carnal ordinances” we’re only imposed “until the time of the reformation.” Jesus came not to destroy the law, but to fulfill. (Matthew 5:17) So, the rest of the law stands. We do not make the law void through faith, we establish it. (Romans 3:31)
And should you be so silly as to say that Jesus never taught keeping the law, then you do not know his word and consequently do not know him. Since he is God (and the only God there is—Isaiah 43:10,11), he in fact spake these words to Moses. And if we love him, we are encouraged to keep his commandments (laws).
I had no idea, thanks!
Homosexual sex is an abomination to God. Should Christians support laws that criminalize gay sex?
I hated queers before i became a christian,they are predators and they prey on children, i am not supposed to hate now but i still know that it is sick.
There may be some sort of problem bonding with a distant or absent father, or sexual abuse in Haggard’s background. His acting out with males and using the drug crystal meth is so common with those of the homosexual orientation.
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