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To: Houghton M.
The idea that the goal is to be able to hear and follow along with the Latin when attending the Traditional Mass is a fallacy

No question, there is a contingent that goes to Mass without care; then there is a contingent that wants to be at the Sacrifice of the Mass, understands it with or without the knowledge of Latin and does not need word-by-word supplements of any kind; finally there is a contingent of learners who want to transition from the first group to the second group. For them, not a compromise is needed but learning aids; again, it is no different than the display with the hymnal numbers. To tell them: "learn some Latin then come back" is not the best approach. Neither is "don't attempt to understand the words".

[From your second post to me:] the difference is that 50% of those who came back then (but didn’t much care) don’t even come today

So how is that a gain?

Again, the topic of the article is: what transitional forms of the Mass could be offered for those who wish to attend the Traditional Mass but find the transition too steep, given the realities of today, whether we like these realities or not? I think that the bilingual missals are not sufficient: it is easy to loose your place and then one loses the mental space he is supposed to be in and instead frantically races up and down the missal to re-synchronize. The modern electronic means exist to offer synchronized display for those who need it; operating them should be the job of the altar boys, no different than holding up the Gospel and bringing the vessels.

On the other hand, I disagree with the idea of a compromise in the way the author proposes it: a yet third form of the Mass that is neither Traditional nor Novus Ordo.

I think that the Novus Ordo itself should be evolving toward the Old Mass, not in the spirit of compromise but in the spirit of improvement. It is, after all, an experimental form of liturgy and the experiment should continue since we are apparently not ready to cancel it outright. Hence my second suggestion, to reintroduce elements that were simply cut in the Novus Ordo for no clear reason.

31 posted on 10/05/2012 5:39:45 AM PDT by annalex (fear them not)
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To: annalex

Rather, combine the very best of both rites. This Pope gets it right. Remember, even though I am past 50, I hardly remember the old mass, I am very much a child of the new mass.


34 posted on 10/05/2012 6:38:36 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: annalex

**Novus Ordo itself should be evolving toward the Old Mass**

I do think this is going to happen, and, in fact, has already started to happen with the new translations which are more accurate to the original Latin Vulgate.

Next come the readings. I was going to buy one of the NABRE (Revised Edition) until I found out that all had been revised was the Old Testament. When they revise the New Testament perhaps the USCCB will adopt a new lectionary format. I think it will happen, but maybe I’m being too optomistic.


47 posted on 10/07/2012 8:10:11 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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