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To: koinonia

(angels) .....”are faithful, humble servants of Christ the King and Mary the Queen.”

There is no “Queen” Mary or any other. In this sentence they are equating Jesus with Mary. Blasphemy! Jesus is GOD, Mary is a human sinner.


3 posted on 10/02/2012 1:09:33 PM PDT by faucetman ( Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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Don’t start rioting, ok?


4 posted on 10/02/2012 1:27:28 PM PDT by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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To: faucetman
There is no “Queen” Mary or any other. In this sentence they are equating Jesus with Mary. Blasphemy! Jesus is GOD, Mary is a human sinner.


6 posted on 10/02/2012 2:59:19 PM PDT by Pyro7480 (Viva Cristo Rey!)
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To: faucetman

Where are you getting this faulty information? Perhaps some comic book or pamplet that someone gave you?

Do you have any idea how many times angels are mentioned in the Bible?

Haven’t you read the first chapter of Luke where Gabriel, the archangel, visits Mary?


7 posted on 10/02/2012 3:36:01 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: faucetman; Salvation
Hi. A queen, however powerful she may be, is always subordinate to the king. However, she is honored and has true power from the king; look at queen Bethsabee in the kingdom of Solomon: Then Bethsabee came to king Solomon, to speak to him for Adonias: and the king arose to meet her, and bowed to her [adoravitque eam - literally he adored her, in the Latin], and sat down upon his throne: and a throne was set for the king's mother, and she sat on his right hand. And she said to him: I desire one small petition of thee, do not put me to confusion. And the king said to her: My mother, ask: for I must not turn away thy face. (3 Kings 2:19-20). If an earthly king can honor his mother so greatly, why not the King of kings and Lord of lords?

At any rate, there is no "equating" Jesus and Mary here on the part of Fr. Dean (or the Catholic Church), but true honor is being given to the Queen of Heaven and earth, exalted by God Himself above all Angels and the rest of men to be His Mother.

Regarding Mary being a sinner: Could Jesus have preserved His Mother from sin by the foreseen merits of His Passion? Was it fitting that He do so ("Honor your father and mother")? Well, that's what He did and that's why the Angel could call her the "fully graced one" κεχαριτωμένη, (kecharitōménē). If she were a big sinner (like me) the Angel would have had to say, "Hail, not so fully graced one".

May the Lord Jesus bless you!

10 posted on 10/02/2012 11:48:44 PM PDT by koinonia (Virgil Goode for President - I'm not getting paid to promote him :-))
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