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To: Cronos; ansel12
...either the Church take the money this way, or it needs to get and share the tax details of its congregants.

I don't understand this sentence. Do you mean that if the Church doesn't get the tax, levied, I believe, by the state, then it needs to provide the equivalent of our 1040? Provide to who? The state already has it, that's where I'm confused.

My Protestant Church survives on tithe. It's also NOT in a beautiful 500 year old stone cathedral that must need massive upkeep.

If they were getting my tax money, I'd sure like to see where they're spending that money.

As I said before, it's nice to have a beautiful Church costing millions, but then they also ask for tithe to the poor? Put the Church in a warehouse and donate the tithe the Church didn't need.

108 posted on 09/25/2012 7:19:13 AM PDT by Lx (Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.)
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To: Lx
My Protestant Church survives on tithe

As did my old Catholic Church in Delaware and my Catholic Churches here in Poland

We're talking about Germany only -- where all Churches -- Catholic or Protestant get church tax collected by the state

109 posted on 09/25/2012 7:24:03 AM PDT by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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To: Lx
It's also NOT in a beautiful 500 year old stone cathedral that must need massive upkeep.

well, quite frankly, most of the churches in the US are not 500 years old. The German ones are

however, the same could be said about churches in the rest of Europe and they either get state aid or fend for themselves.

i think it's better for them to fend for themselves rather than have the govt get them

And, you know, the upkeep isn't that much if one is sensible about it -- the problem is getting govt involved in collecting church tax for catholic and protestant churches

111 posted on 09/25/2012 8:02:04 AM PDT by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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