New revelation: Mormons can drink Coke or Pepsi

National Post ^ | Sep 4, 2012 | Religion News Service

[freedomlover]

SALT LAKE CITY — Maybe now, reporters, bloggers, outsiders and even many Mormons will accept that the Utah-based Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints does not forbid drinking cola.

On Aug. 29, the LDS church posted a statement on its website saying that “the church does not prohibit the use of caffeine” and that the faith’s health-code reference to “hot drinks” “does not go beyond (tea and coffee).”

A day later, the website wording was slightly softened, saying only that “the church revelation spelling out health practices … does not mention the use of caffeine.”

The same goes for the church’s two-volume handbook, which LDS leaders use to guide their congregations. It says plainly that “the only official interpretation of ‘hot drinks’ … in the Word of Wisdom is the statement made by early church leaders that the term ‘hot drinks’ means tea and coffee.”

[Elsie]

I don’t respect a religion that claims to be “I’m Christian too only”, but is really there to lure Christians away.

[Elsie]

I will do some research on it and trash it. Thanks . Specifically , I need the name of the church.

Seems like your 'respect' for other folk's religion just got shown be be, shall we say, a little bit hypocritical.

[Elsie]

Things change.

NOT unless the SCRIPTURE that started it 'changes'!

MORMONism STILL has the Scripture and there is NO evidence that a LIVING Prophet® has received ANY 'revelation' to change past practices!!

[Elsie]

Curious?

just HOW curious ARE you???

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sects_in_the_Latter_Day_Saint_movement

[Elsie]

People do not vigorously spar about what they know to be true, only what they fear may not be true.

Navy Seals: come back home...

[truth_seeker]

“Grape Nehi futures crash...”

Many of the fruit drinks from the 1950s were and remain delicious.

Successor company owning a lot of this type of product is Dr. Pepper-Snapple Group.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dr_Pepper_Snapple_Group

[Elsie]

Just another MORMONism apologetic wannabe trying to get folks from pointing out ERROR in MORMONism.

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Judge NOT???

 

Sigh............

 

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Jesus has commanded us to judge!

 

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“Dare any of you, having a matter against another, go to law before the unrighteous, and not before the saints? Do you not know that the saints will judge the world?... And if the world will be judged by you, are you unworthy to judge the smallest matters?... Do you not know that we shall judge angels?... How much more, things that pertain to this life?.. If then you have judgments concerning things pertaining to this life, do you appoint those who are least esteemed by the church to judge ? (1 Corinthians 6:1-5).

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Many commands of God require the exercise of righteous judgment.

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“But we command you, brethren, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that you withdraw from every brother who walks disorderly and not according to the tradition which he received from us” (2 Thessalonians 3:6).

“And if anyone does not obey our word in this epistle, note that person and do not keep company with him, that he may be ashamed. Yet do not count him as an enemy, but admonish him as a brother” (2 Thessalonians 3:14,15).

“Teach and exhort these things. If anyone teaches otherwise and does not consent to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which is according to godliness, he is proud, knowing nothing, but is obsessed with disputes and arguments over words, from which come envy, strife, reviling, evil suspicions, useless wrangling of men of corrupt minds and destitute of the truth, who suppose that godliness is a means of gain. From such withdraw yourself” (2 Timothy 6:2b-5).

“Now I urge you, brethren, note those who cause divisions and offenses, contrary to the doctrine which you learned, and avoid them. For those who are such do not serve our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly, and by smooth words and flattering speech deceive the hearts of the simple” (Romans 16:17,18).

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All these commands require the careful exercise of righteousness judgment. Do not be deceived by smooth words and flattering speech. Beware of wolves who come to you with a sheep’s skin.

We must be careful not to make unqualified judgments. But we must judge appropriately when commanded to do so.

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 “Do not judge according to appearance, but judge with righteous judgment.”  (John 7:24).

[Elsie]

Back to the thread, is there something about its posting that upsets you or you consider to be “bashing”?

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Any place that a MORMON has the nerve to start spouting any of their HERESY will turn in to a BASH.

Bold
ANTIs
Spotlighting
Heresy

[Elsie]

Although I can't think of any kneeslappers coming out of Judaism off the top of my head.

When the JEWS start claiming that THEY are christians; and the ONLY true ones at that; get back to me.

[Elsie]

You are not acting in a Christ like spirit and you know it.

HMMMmmm...

That sounds a little JUDGEMENTAL to me.

Any one else feel this way?

[ZULU]

I do put the fate of men’s souls first. And they would be far more endangered under a Communist Muslim who hates western religion more than they would be under a Mormon, so I’m supporting Romney.

Besides he has a good Christian as his VP and a lot of other good Christians around him to make sure he does right.

Obama is surrounded by Muslims and atheists and communists.
Just like he is.

[Elsie]

You should reevaluate your tactics. You are only making yourself look bad.

OK then....

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Questions put to Joseph Smith: "'Do you believe the Bible?' [Smith:]'If we do, we are the only people under heaven that does, for there are none of the religious sects of the day that do'. When asked 'Will everybody be damned, but Mormons'? [Smith replied] 'Yes, and a great portion of them, unless they repent, and work righteousness." (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 119).

Joseph Smith: "for the teachers of religion of the different sects understood the same passages of scripture so differently as to destroy all confidence in settling the question by an appeal to the Bible" (from Pearl of Great Price 1:12). "What is it that inspires professors of Christianity generally with a hope of salvation? It is that smooth, sophisticated influence of the devil, by which he deceives the whole world" (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p.270).

 

 

 

Brigham Young stated this repeatedly: "When the light came to me I saw that all the so-called Christian world was grovelling in darkness" (Journal of Discourses 5:73); "The Christian world, so-called, are heathens as to the knowledge of the salvation of God" (Journal of Discourses 8:171); "With a regard to true theology, a more ignorant people never lived than the present so-called Christian world" (Journal of Discourses 8:199); "And who is there that acknowledges [God's] hand? ...You may wander east, west, north, and south, and you cannot find it in any church or government on the earth, except the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints" (Journal of Discourses , vol. 6, p.24); "Should you ask why we differ from other Christians, as they are called, it is simply because they are not Christians as the New Testament defines Christianity" (Journal of Discourses 10:230).

 

 

 

Orson Pratt proclaimed: "Both Catholics and Protestants are nothing less than the 'whore of Babylon' whom the Lord denounces by the mouth of John the Revelator as having corrupted all the earth by their fornications and wickedness. Any person who shall be so corrupt as to receive a holy ordinance of the Gospel from the ministers of any of these apostate churches will be sent down to hell with them, unless they repent" (The Seer, p. 255).

 

 

 

Orson Pratt also said: "This great apostasy commenced about the close of the first century of the Christian era, and it has been waxing worse and worse from then until now" (Journal of Discourses

, vol.18, p.44) and: "But as there has been no Christian Church on the earth for a great many centuries past, until the present century, the people have lost sight of the pattern that God has given according to which the Christian Church should be established, and they have denominated a great variety of people Christian Churches, because they profess to be ...But there has been a long apostasy, during which the nations have been cursed with apostate churches in great abundance" (Journal of Discourses , 18:172).

 

 

President John Taylor stated: "Christianity...is a perfect pack of nonsense...the devil could not invent a better engine to spread his work than the Christianity of the nineteenth century." (Journal of Discourses , vol. 6, p.167); "Where shall we look for the true order or authority of God? It cannot be found in any nation of Christendom." (Journal of Discourses , 10:127).

 

 

 

James Talmage said: "A self-suggesting interpretation of history indicates that there has been a great departure from the way of salvation as laid down by the Savior, a universal apostasy from the Church of Christ". (A Study of the Articles of Faith, p.182).

 

 

 

President Joseph Fielding Smith said: "Doctrines were corrupted, authority lost, and a false order of religion took the place of the gospel of Jesus Christ, just as it had been the case in former dispensations, and the people were left in spiritual darkness." (Doctrines of Salvation, p.266). "For hundreds of years the world was wrapped in a veil of spiritual darkness, until there was not one fundamental truth belonging to the place of salvation ...Joseph Smith declared that in the year 1820 the Lord revealed to him that all the 'Christian' churches were in error, teaching for commandments the doctrines of men" (Doctrines of Salvation, vol. 3, p.282).

 

 

 

More recent statements by apostle Bruce McConkie are also very clear: "Apostasy was universal...And this darkness still prevails except among those who have come to a knowledge of the restored gospel" (Doctrines of Salvation, vol 3, p.265); "Thus the signs of the times include the prevailing apostate darkness in the sects of Christendom and in the religious world in general" (The Millennial Messiah, p.403); "a perverted Christianity holds sway among the so-called Christians of apostate Christendom" (Mormon Doctrine, p.132); "virtually all the millions of apostate Christendom have abased themselves before the mythical throne of a mythical Christ whom they vainly suppose to be a spirit essence who is incorporeal uncreated, immaterial and three-in-one with the Father and Holy Spirit" (Mormon Doctrine, p.269); "Gnosticism is one of the great pagan philosophies which antedated Christ and the Christian Era and which was later commingled with pure Christianity to form the apostate religion that has prevailed in the world since the early days of that era." (Mormon Doctrine, p.316).

 

 

 

President George Q. Cannon said: "After the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints was organized, there were only two churches upon the earth. They were known respectively as the Church of the Lamb of God and Babylon. The various organizations which are called churches throughout Christendom, though differing in their creeds and organizations, have one common origin. They all belong to Babylon" (Gospel Truth, p.324).

 

 

President Wilford Woodruff stated: "the Gospel of modern Christendom shuts up the Lord, and stops all communication with Him. I want nothing to do with such a Gospel, I would rather prefer the Gospel of the dark ages, so called" (Journal of Discourses , vol. 2, p.196).

[aMorePerfectUnion]

“I do put the fate of men’s souls first. And they would be far more endangered under a Communist Muslim who hates western religion more than they would be under a Mormon, so I’m supporting Romney.”

Smells like wishful thinking. Most reject Islam outright. Many are suckered into the cultic heresy of mormonism.

[Elsie]

Mormonism has been judged and it is found lacking.

'Reverend' Moon channeled Joseph Smith!

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Sun Myung Moon says that Jesus appeared to Him and asked Him to fulfill the mission that He did not complete

The Unification Church teaches the Bible cannot be understood except through the teaching of God's prophet, Mr. Moon

Sun Myung Moon teaches that Jesus on earth, was a man no different from us except for the fact that he was without original sin

The Unification Church teaches that salvation is not by grace and the atonement at the cross. Salvation can only be achieved by human works and by the teachings, revelations, and the requirements of Sun Myung Moon.

 

 

 

 

http://www.thepropheticyears.com/cults/moonies.HTM

 

 

 

[aMorePerfectUnion]

“Obama is surrounded by Muslims and atheists and communists. Just like he is.”

“RINOmney is surrounded by cultists and polytheists and people who think they are going to be a god. Just like he is.”

[Elsie]

So why are some of you so desperate to help reelect a Pro-infanticide President?

For the same reason some of YOU are so desperate to elect a follower of a known heresy; I suppose.

[Elsie]

I am not a member of the Mormon bashers.

Good!

But I...

...AM a member of the MormonISM bashers.

It is a hellish heresy!

[DannyTN]

"I don’t respect a religion that claims to be “I’m Christian too only”, but is really there to lure Christians away."

Most Christian Denominations recognize each other as Christian, but they are most entirely united in rejecting Mormonism, because Mormonism has distorted who God is, who Jesus is, and the nature of salvation to the point that it's hardly recognizable.

Mormonism did the same thing that Islam did. Some guy announced himself a prophet and built a base of believers in himself, so that he could have as many women as he liked and enjoy the riches and power of being head of his own church.

We actually could turn a blind eye to the magic underwear or dietary restrictions as long as they didn't make them a condition of salvation. But a different God and Jesus and a different plan of salvation? There is a point where you really have to say, are you going to allow anything and everything to claim to be Christian no matter what they teach?

[Elsie]

Enough said. Have a nice day.

Indeed!

Now follow the example!

[Elsie]

Be adults and learn from it rather then just cling to your evil based emotional responses.

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The

DOCTRINE AND COVENANTS

OF THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS

SECTION 71

Revelation given to Joseph Smith the Prophet and Sidney Rigdon, at Hiram, Ohio, December 1, 1831. HC 1: 238–239. The Prophet had continued to translate the Bible with Sidney Rigdon as his scribe until this revelation was received, at which time it was temporarily laid aside so as to enable them to fulfill the instruction given herein. The brethren were to go forth to preach in order to allay the unfriendly feelings that had developed against the Church as a result of the publication of some newspaper articles by Ezra Booth, who had apostatized.

1–4, Joseph Smith and Sidney Rigdon are sent forth to proclaim the gospel; 5–11, Enemies of the saints shall be confounded.

1 Behold, thus saith the Lord unto you my servants Joseph Smith, Jun., and Sidney Rigdon, that the time has verily come that it is necessary and expedient in me that you should open your mouths in proclaiming my gospel, the things of the kingdom, expounding the mysteries thereof out of the scriptures, according to that portion of Spirit and power which shall be given unto you, even as I will.

2 Verily I say unto you, proclaim unto the world in the regions round about, and in the church also, for the space of a season, even until it shall be made known unto you.

3 Verily this is a mission for a season, which I give unto you.

4 Wherefore, labor ye in my vineyard. Call upon the inhabitants of the earth, and bear record, and prepare the way for the commandments and revelations which are to come.

5 Now, behold this is wisdom; whoso readeth, let him understand and receive also;

6 For unto him that receiveth it shall be given more abundantly, even power.

7 Wherefore, confound your enemies; call upon them to meet you both in public and in private; and inasmuch as ye are faithful their shame shall be made manifest.

8 Wherefore, let them bring forth their strong reasons against the Lord.

9 Verily, thus saith the Lord unto you—there is no weapon that is formed against you shall prosper;

10 And if any man lift his voice against you he shall be confounded in mine own due time.

11 Wherefore, keep my commandments; they are true and faithful. Even so. Amen.

 

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