[Uri’el-2012]

The Trinity is the central dogma of the Christian Faith. The Apostles’ Creed, the Nicene Creed, the Athanasian Creed, etc., all express the dogma of the Trinity.

It is not a “Catholic thing”! All Protestants who have remained Christians believe in the Trinity.

Sorry.

The Jews who followed Yah'shua
did not believe in three gods or a trinity.

That was a later Greek thing codified and
promulgated by the Roman "church"
with the development of Dogma in the form of creeds.

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach

[Arthur McGowan]

If you think that a Trinity means “three gods,” then you don’t begin to understand what is meant by the dogma of the Trinity.

Here’s a great, great book on what is meant by the dogma:

http://tinyurl.com/mindofthemaker

[aMorePerfectUnion]

http://www.messianicassociation.org/believe.htm

[RaisingCain]

“Sorry.
The Jews who followed Yah’shua
did not believe in three gods or a trinity.

That was a later Greek thing codified and
promulgated by the Roman “church”
with the development of Dogma in the form of creeds.

shalom b’SHEM Yah’shua HaMashiach”

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The doctrine of the trinity is not just the doctrine of the New Testament, but also of the Old. Daniel’s vision of the Messiah coming to the “Ancient of Days” and receiving power and dominion forever and ever, including worship. Isaiah writing “And now the LORD God, and His Spirit, hath sent me” is another. The scripture is certainly there.

[xzins]

Sorry, Uriel, but you can’t deny that John and Hebrews were written by Jews, and you can’t deny that the beginnings of each book are thoroughly Trinitarian, whether we want to use that word or want to have some kind of extended verbal description.

“1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.2 The same was in the beginning with God.3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

“The Son is the radiance of God’s glory and the exact representation of his being, sustaining all things by his powerful word”

[Cronos]

uri: The Jews who followed Yah'shua did not believe in three gods or a trinity.

That was a later Greek thing codified and promulgated by the Roman "church" with the development of Dogma in the form of creeds.

Interesting.. boatbums, another case for you. This is a definite non-Trinitarian piece, eh? Do you agree with it?

[OneWingedShark]

It is not a “Catholic thing”! All Protestants who have remained Christians believe in the Trinity.

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Sorry.
The Jews who followed Yah'shua did not believe in three gods or a trinity.

That was a later Greek thing codified and promulgated by the Roman "church" with the development of Dogma in the form of creeds.

Interesting you should say that; there is evidence for the trinity throughout the New Testament; laying aside Paul's writings we have John's -- one of the Twelve -- book of Revelation wherein the first chapter describes the Trinity:
Ch 1
4 John to the seven assemblies that [are] in Asia: Grace to you, and peace, from Him who is, and who was, and who is coming, and from the Seven Spirits that are before His throne,
5 and from Jesus Christ, the faithful witness, the first-born out of the dead, and the ruler of the kings of the earth; to him who did love us, and did bathe us from our sins in his blood,
6 and did make us kings and priests to his God and Father, to him [is] the glory and the power to the ages of the ages! Amen.

As you can see the book is sent from three persons: the was/is/is-to-come, the seven-fold spirit (Isiah gives God's spirit seven attributes), and the Son.

More interestingly are the claims of who is responsible for the Resurrection -- THE central point of Christianity, w/o it Christianity is a lie, w/ it the most astounding and validating-of-his-ministry miracle of Jesus -- one is the Father that raised him up; another is that Jesus lays his own life down and takes it up again; the third is God's Spirit raises him from the dead.