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Why Catholicism Is Losing Influence To Protestantism In Brazil
International Business Times ^ | July 17, 2012 | Ryan Villarreal

Posted on 08/08/2012 9:03:55 AM PDT by Dr. Thorne

At least 1 million evangelical Christians took part in Saturday's annual "March for Jesus" in Sao Paulo, demonstrating the growing trend of Protestantism in Brazil.

With 123.2 million of 191 million Brazilians identifying as Catholic according to 2010 census data, the South American nation still holds the world's largest Catholic population, but adherents to the faith have been steadily declining over several decades, while Protestantism, particularly evangelical Christianity, has been on the rise.

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TOPICS: Catholic; Evangelical Christian; Ministry/Outreach; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: brazil; catholic; evangelical
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To: wmfights
FACT - This has always been a Protestant nation.
FACT - Protestants have always made up at a minimum 70% of the population.
FACT - To this day Protestants like to brag about the number of Catholics who have left the One, Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic Church to become part of the heresy of Core.
While Protestantism bragged about attracting Catholics away from Catholicism and huge increases in the number of "Fundamentalists" and then "Evangelicals" who had left "mainline" Protestant churches, the country descended into pure hedonism.
Ergo, increasing the number of Protestants while decreasing the number of Catholics is directly responsible for the political and moral state this nation is in.

Protestantism is finally blossoming into the imitation of Eve it was always destined to become. It's now obvious to anyone who actually cares about their immortal soul that Protestantism is nothing but the heresy of Core embellished with a daub of enthroning the individual as his own god and garnished with magic words salvation. Each and every day it adopts ever more immorality as acceptable behavior without batting an eye.

No on believes the hokum about how horrible the Catholic Church is when compared Christianity as taught by Jesus Christ much less when compared to Protestants in this country. What Protestants don't cater to the increasing immorality by endorsing murder by contraception? What Protestants don't ignore the very same behaviors they preached against thirty or fewer years ago? What Protestants don't ignore the fact that while claiming they base everything on Scripture don't base the majority of what they teach on what they can best market rather than Scripture? Maybe some of the dolts who have to routinely be assured that they're forgiven in advance for the premeditated murder of their own children believe Catholics are wrong and not solid Christians, but no one who honestly prays for guidance from the Holy Spirit rather than from the master of "I'm Ok, You're Ok" believes it. It's finally just too obvious that Protestantism is not Christianity as taught by Jesus Christ. The people who like to pass their time with anti-Catholic rants know they're not trying to spread Christianity so they imitate the fascists and socialists they claim to hate and preach hatred of someone else to divert attention from themselves.

FACT - take up your contraceptives and murder your children is not in the Scriptures.
FACT - take up your cross and follow me is.
The One, Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic Church Jesus Christ Himself founded teaches both of those facts. Protestantism teaches murder by contraception isn't murder and that bearing a cross is just silly since all your sins are forgiven as soon as you say the magic words.

have a nice day

81 posted on 08/10/2012 9:35:48 AM PDT by Rashputin (Only Newt can defeat both the Fascist democrats and the Vichy GOP)
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To: daniel1212
Uh...what?

The Catholic teaching on artificial birth control is clear. HERE it is.

I'm asking if a) there is an evangelical position on this issue and b)if there is, how was it derived?

I take it from your answer that you believe artificial birth control to be wrong. Have I got that right?

82 posted on 08/10/2012 9:44:33 AM PDT by marshmallow (.)
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To: daniel1212
LOL, this is soooo funny.

I should prove that contraception is murder? LOL.

Oh yeah, forget the fact that at least two infants are murdered by contraception for each abortion classified as an abortion, and "prove" that you care by playing numbers games instead of talking about Christianity.

Where in the New Testament is there an example of any Christian using contraception?

Try some other way to divert attention from Christianity and the Scriptures and onto the "figures don't lie but liars figure" farm.

83 posted on 08/10/2012 9:44:52 AM PDT by Rashputin (Only Newt can defeat both the Fascist democrats and the Vichy GOP)
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To: Dr. Thorne

I find the prosperity gospel and ecumenical Roman Catholicism both repugnant. That’s why I am Reformed.


84 posted on 08/10/2012 9:48:29 AM PDT by AmericanSamurai
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To: Rashputin; wmfights; ansel12; metmom; boatbums; caww; presently no screen name; smvoice

Again, all these words will not explain away the obvious, which is that what Rome overall effectually teaches and fosters is liberalism, which was the general subject, thus you must major on the single, if valid, issue of contraceptives, while Catholics also engage in this as well as having more abortions.

As for the apocrypha, Luther has scholarly company in Rome right into Trent, which finally provided the first indisputable canon, in the year Luther died: http://peacebyjesus.tripod.com//Ancients_on_Scripture.html#2

And which other FR RCs have tried to counter, such as here (with links to more) ,
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2891087/posts?page=974#974
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2891087/posts?page=990#990
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2901137/posts?page=126#126


85 posted on 08/10/2012 1:37:50 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a damned+destitute actual sinner, + trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: daniel1212

Anathama.


86 posted on 08/10/2012 1:56:05 PM PDT by Rashputin (Only Newt can defeat both the Fascist democrats and the Vichy GOP)
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To: daniel1212
Anathema.
87 posted on 08/10/2012 1:56:39 PM PDT by Rashputin (Only Newt can defeat both the Fascist democrats and the Vichy GOP)
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To: marshmallow

Of course Rome says contraception is wrong, and i agree with that, and Rome says plenty of conservative things, but faith is shown by actions, and rather than making it very uncomfortable for Ted Kennedy types, and not even marking and excommunicating known notorious promoters of things as abortion, she does basically has done little to nothing overall, let alone the way she organizationally protected child molesters. All such are typically treated as members in life and in death. And by so doing, and by officially sanctioning liberal Biblical as views, she effectually promotes liberalism.

And the fact is that you have conservative schisms who also affirm these problems, while all you can do is focus on one fault, legit as it is, but which does not change the overall picture.


88 posted on 08/10/2012 1:59:17 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a damned+destitute actual sinner, + trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: Dr. Thorne
Perhaps its all the underage, same-sex, forcible sodomy that has people leaving the Catholic church. Just sayin’.
89 posted on 08/10/2012 2:19:00 PM PDT by LanaTurnerOverdrive ("I've done a lot of things in my life that I'm not proud of. And the things I am proud of are disgus)
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To: steve86

Yeah, just keep asserting what you’ve asserted in your reply...even you might begin to believe you own reply someday!


90 posted on 08/10/2012 3:14:56 PM PDT by mdmathis6 (Not left wing! Not right wing! But....CHRIST WING!)
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To: steve86

Yeah, just keep asserting what you’ve asserted in your reply...even you might begin to believe you own reply someday!


91 posted on 08/10/2012 3:15:10 PM PDT by mdmathis6 (Not left wing! Not right wing! But....CHRIST WING!)
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To: Rashputin

Another vain try, but as can be more shown, the FACT is that the liberal Prots are those who, like Rome, do not stress Scripture as the supreme Word of God, or evangelical commitment, and morality, nor do they hold to historical exegeses, in contrast to their evangelical counterparts.

And the FACT is that the USA has been in decline by rejecting evangelical conservatism, as they are more like the majority of RCs, the FACT being they and mainline Prot denoms are the more liberal than their evang. counterparts, despite your desperate attempts to spin it otherwise, and focus on one issue.


92 posted on 08/10/2012 3:24:51 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a damned+destitute actual sinner, + trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: Rashputin

You are avoiding the overall liberalism of Catholicism verses evangelical faith, which is a fact despite some exceptions, and yes, you should substantiate medical claims as a matter of course.


93 posted on 08/10/2012 3:32:10 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a damned+destitute actual sinner, + trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: daniel1212
I'm still waiting for the Scripture that describes and approves of Christians using contraception from all the “Scripture Alone” folks. Obviously it's “Scripture Alone” until sex is involved and then whatever best puts wallets in the pews is the guiding principal.

Brag about attracting Catholics and others then claim that the huge growth in the membership of your cult is a rejection of your cult? That's incredibly lame for people who obviously can't comprehend what they read.

The increase in immorality exactly matches the growth of Evangelical, Fundamentalist, nondenominational, and other more recent flavors of the Protestant heresy of Core over the past fifty years. That is, recent as opposed to the older Protestants who already ordain women, queers, dogs, cats, and possums and are more than happy to marry any or all of those one to another.

There's no way around it, the primary appeal of Protestant cults in the US is their approval of putting more value on an unrestrained sex life than on the life of the children murdered in the womb thorugh contraception along with assurances that they're forgiven in advance for murdering their children.

As usual, the dogs return to their vomit.

94 posted on 08/10/2012 3:50:35 PM PDT by Rashputin (Only Newt can defeat both the Fascist democrats and the Vichy GOP)
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To: mdmathis6

Neither one of your doubled comments makes the slightest bit of sense, from any theological or logical point of view. But feel free to continue. There is a wing of our hospital where they let people babble on the entire day.


95 posted on 08/10/2012 4:06:28 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature not nurture TM)
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To: Rashputin; daniel1212
Where in the New Testament is there an example of any Christian using contraception?

Where in the Bible anywhere is contraception mentioned? What are the "Apostolic" traditions about birth control and where are they found? Why is there NO pro-abortion plank in the Republican platform and why are Conservatives the ones who have ALWAYS rejected sex education, pro-homosexual orientation and birth control in schools? Why is it that Conservative Republicans have been the ones to fight against the legalization of abortion and gay marriage? You talk like America is mostly "Protestant" and Catholics are a minority yet we know that America today is made up of many religious and ethnic sorts. At one time America was said to be a "Christian" nation, but I've never heard of it called a Protestant one. It seems like you are piling on all the problems of the world on the backs of "Protestants" yet leave out that the ENTIRE world is heading for the toilet INCLUDING predominately Catholic countries (yeah, and actually CALLED that). Is Protestantism to blame for all that too?

Try some other way to divert attention from Christianity and the Scriptures and onto the "figures don't lie but liars figure" farm.

Try to come to grips with reality here. Genuine Christians - Catholic OR non-Catholic have within them a nature that rejects evil and by the power of the indwelling Holy Spirit we are capable of knowing right from wrong. On the other hand, there are numerous people that CLAIM to be Roman Catholic that are directly responsible for the degradation Liberalism has imprinted on our nation (i.e., Pelosi, Kerry, the Kennedys, et al).

All this foofaraw about "Core" again makes little sense as any kind of explanation for the trouble you seem to want to unload on all "Protestants". Daniel1212's statistics demonstrate over and over that when the heart is changed the outward life is also changed. Only a genuine faith response to Jesus Christ can make that happen. All the church-goin' in the world can't do it no matter what the sign says on the outside of the building.

96 posted on 08/10/2012 9:57:15 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: marshmallow; daniel1212
So what's the evangelical position on the morality of artificial contraception?

You can't go to Scripture. There's nothing there.

Sure we can. "You shall not murder." (Ex. 20:13), (Matt. 5:21) and (Romans 13:9). Any action that causes murder of an innocent human life is wrong. Most artificial means of contraception on the market today (pills, IUDs, implants) have as a back up mechanism the prevention of a fertilized egg from implanting - which is, in essence, abortion. For many years, this fact was left out of instructions and information given to women. Hopefully, this is not now still the case. We also have from Scripture instructions concerning sexual acts restricted to a married man and woman only. So, I believe we have more than ample Scripture to guide us. God has not left us without His word of truth and we do not need to solely rely upon fallible men to tell us what is right and wrong.

97 posted on 08/10/2012 10:27:37 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: wmfights
Talk is cheap and that is part of the problem Evangelical Christians have with the hypocrisy of the RCC and it's members. The RCC talks a great game, but when push comes to shove RC's vote for baby killers and RC apologists attempt to obfuscate the issue by claiming they really are conservative. RC's were one of the key voting blocs that gave us this tyranny from obama and the left. Lets see how RC's vote this time around.

I sincerely hope that those who voted for the Liberal, Socialist Left that are turning our country into the old USSR have had their spiritual eyes opened this time. I watched the first Matrix movie again a few nights ago. Morpheus told Neo, "There is a difference between knowing the path and walking the path." Let's pray more people start walking the right path.

98 posted on 08/10/2012 10:35:36 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: wmfights
Talk is cheap and that is part of the problem Evangelical Christians have with the hypocrisy of the RCC and it's members. The RCC talks a great game, but when push comes to shove RC's vote for baby killers and RC apologists attempt to obfuscate the issue by claiming they really are conservative. RC's were one of the key voting blocs that gave us this tyranny from obama and the left. Lets see how RC's vote this time around.

I sincerely hope that those who voted for the Liberal, Socialist Left that are turning our country into the old USSR have had their spiritual eyes opened this time. I watched the first Matrix movie again a few nights ago. Morpheus told Neo, "There is a difference between knowing the path and walking the path." Let's pray more people start walking the right path.

99 posted on 08/10/2012 10:38:41 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: boatbums
"There is a difference between knowing the path and walking the path." Let's pray more people start walking the right path.

Amen!!!!!

100 posted on 08/11/2012 8:21:06 AM PDT by wmfights
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