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To: texican01

Clearly we are under God’s judgment.

Left with the choice between a Marxist and an anti-christian pagan, I will vote for the pagan and fear for our future.


24 posted on 08/05/2012 5:58:39 PM PDT by Mrs.Z
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To: Mrs.Z

I too believe we are under judgment. Below is a comment I made about why I can’t vote for Romney from a few days ago.


I haven’t always thought about this the way I think today. I voted for John McCain and I regret it. He’s not an across the board conservative and I don’t believe he is a true born-again believer any more than Myth Romney is. I’m done voting for pagan men I don’t really support.

That said, I believe in Christian liberty and I’m not going to beat up on the many Christians who see this issue differently. I recognize I often don’t think as other Christians think. I live on a sparsely populated island.

If we look at the Old Testament standards for selecting overseers in Israel, Myth Romney doesn’t come close to meeting them because he’s a fundamentally dishonest man. Titus tells us an overseer must be above reproach. And I believe Romans 13:3-4 give Christians strong grounds to not vote for any non-Christian because Paul uses the same title for both civil authorities and Christian ministers.

3 For rulers are not a cause of fear for good behavior, but for evil. Do you want to have no fear of authority? Do what is good and you will have praise from the same; 4 for it is a minister of God to you for good. But if you do what is evil, be afraid; for it does not bear the sword for nothing; for it is a minister of God, an avenger who brings wrath on the one who practices evil.
(Romans 13:3-4 NASB)

With that passage in mind, I do not believe the Apostle Paul would have supported ministers for office about whom he had said “let them be accursed.” I think he would ask us, as he did the Corinthians, why we tolerate those who spread a false gospel and another Jesus (2 Corinthians 11:3-4).

From Matthew Poole’s (English theologian 1624-1679) commentary on this passage:

“That is the end of his office. And for this reason God hath invested in him with His authority. The Scripture applieth the same title to him that preacheth the Word, and to him that beareth the sword; both are God’s ministers, and there is one common end of their ministry, which is the good and welfare of mankind.“

Bible-believing Christians would never knowingly hire a non-Christian to minister to their church, so why are we so quick to support non-Christian ministers who “beareth the sword?”

I believe the biblical command is to do what is right and leave the results in His sovereign hands. The only reason I can find for a conservative to vote for Romney is fear of Obama because there is little commendable about Romney. Ultimately I fear the Lord, not men. My hope is in Him, not politicians. As the Psalmist said, “Do not trust in princes, In mortal man, in whom there is no salvation.” (Psalm 146:3)

Christians must recognize Obama is where he is because our sovereign Lord put him there. Since I can’t know the mind of God, I can only guess what He is up to. Obama may be a rod in God’ hand, much like Assyria in Isaiah 10. Isaiah tells us that God used Assyria to punish Israel, so maybe God is using Obama to punish America. Or more specifically, maybe He is using Obama to punish Christians in America for our unfaithfulness. We can take heart in the knowledge that God will eventually deal with Obama and all other malevolent tyrants. Even though Assyria was the rod in God’s hand, He pronounced judgment and woe on them for their evil against His chosen people, Israel.

“When the Lord has finished all his work against Mount Zion and Jerusalem, he will say, “I will punish the king of Assyria for the willful pride of his heart and the haughty look in his eyes.” (Isaiah 10:12)

Once the Lord was finished with His work against Israel, Assyria got what was coming to it, and one day, so will Barack Hussein Obama.


26 posted on 08/05/2012 6:05:23 PM PDT by .45 Long Colt
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To: Mrs.Z
Left with the choice between a Marxist and an anti-christian pagan, I will vote for the pagan and fear for our future.

Why not vote for the MArxist and fear for our future?

Myself; I will NOT vote for the HERETIC, out of fear for men's souls.

114 posted on 08/06/2012 11:41:59 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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