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To: ShadowAce

“I follow Christ, not the extra-biblical teachings of a sinful man who claims that God creates most men for the express purpose of throwing them into Hell.”

That’s what Arminians, semi-pelagians, and other freewillers claim Calvinists believe and it’s a false caricature. I do believe in reprobation, but there is much more to it than that.

I am first and foremost a Christian. I happen to believe the theology nicknamed Calvinism to be the most authentic expression of biblical Christianity, particularly the theology laid out by the Apostle Paul. That theology was believed, taught, and loved by many for centuries before John Calvin took his first breath.


53 posted on 07/05/2012 8:09:29 AM PDT by .45 Long Colt
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To: .45 Long Colt
...and it’s a false caricature.

Then explain predestination, omniscience, and election while you prove it is false.

I'm willing to listen.

54 posted on 07/05/2012 8:16:18 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: .45 Long Colt; ShadowAce
That theology was believed, taught, and loved by many for centuries before John Calvin took his first breath.

Err.. no, Mr. MA in history, that isn't correct

Limited Atonement was not "loved" -- it negates the Bible which says that Christ was the savior of the world (John 4:42) 1 John 2:2 Christ is "is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the whole world." and 1 Timothy 4:10 "Jesus is the Savior of all men"

So, no, the limited atonement belief is a new innovation, almost brahmanic in origin

63 posted on 07/06/2012 12:29:50 AM PDT by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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To: .45 Long Colt; ShadowAce
That theology was believed, taught, and loved by many for centuries before John Calvin took his first breath.

Err.. no, Mr. MA in history, that isn't correct

Irresistable was not "loved" -- it negates the Bible statements -- Acts 7:51 Stephen tells the Sanhedrin, "You always resist the Holy Spirit!"

So, no, the calvinist idea of a brahmanic Karma is false.

64 posted on 07/06/2012 12:38:03 AM PDT by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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