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The Mormonizing of America (BOOK EXCERPT, PT 3) [IF Lds lone true church, then are rest 'cultic?']
Christian Post.com (Book Stop Blog section) ^ | 2012 | Stephen Mansfield

Posted on 07/01/2012 8:34:57 AM PDT by Colofornian

The presidential race of Mitt Romney and the success of the Broadway musical The Book of Mormon have generated new interest in Mormonism. Stephen Mansfield's book The Mormonizing of America provides a careful study of this growing religion. The Book Stop blog is posting excerpts from the first two chapters of this book.

The Mormons and the Media

Nowhere in American society does this create an occasion of people talking past each other as when it comes to the media pursuing a prominent Mormon.

Reporters naturally want to find something controversial about this visible person, so they ask about holy underwear. But the Mormon won’t answer this question directly. He’s offended by the phrase “holy underwear”—it is properly called a “Temple garment”—and he won’t talk about Temple rituals in any case because they are far too sacred. Besides, betraying Temple rituals is forbidden.

Then the media switches to polygamy. This too gets side-stepped because the Church forbade polygamy long before this prominent Mormon was born and only a small percentage of Saints have ever been in plural marriages to begin with. There’s nothing to write about here.

Reporters then raise the treatment of blacks. This may get some play because the Latter-day Saints did not “get a revelation” about blacks being priests and permitted in the Temple until 1978. Even the Supreme Court moved toward equality faster than the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints! So the media can stir these waters a bit, but the change came forty-five years ago and everybody has admitted the Church was wrong and even African American Mormons will criticize the media if it does not report fairly where the Church is today.

Then there is abortion and homosexuality, but more than half the country is with the Mormons on this so there is nothing new to spin. There is some fun to be had with the Mormon anti-birth-control position, but this is old and not all Mormons accept it and it will only bring Mormon women to the cameras in a rage. Better to leave this alone too.

It also doesn’t work to bring up specific matters of doctrine. Press a political candidate on whether Jesus will touch down in Jackson County, Missouri, when he returns and the man either answers incorrectly or says he doesn’t know. Ask if he intends to be a god one day and he says his faith doesn’t make this clear. Ask if he thinks he will rule over planets and he laughs and says that some members of his faith believe this.

The man cannot be pinned down, though, and this is because Mormon doctrine is dangerous territory. It is always a bit—squishy. There is no creed. There are few if any LDS theologians. The clergy isn’t theologically trained. The people are usually only taught what is “faith promoting” so there are huge gaps in what they know. And in Mormonism there is nothing like the Roman Catholic “Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith”—no official voice, no department clarifying theology and whipping dissidents back into line. So the candidate moves deftly around the icebergs that reporters try to put in his way.

Then there are always conspiracy theories to pose about how much Salt Lake City controls a leading politician or how much money the church spends trying to turn elections their way. But no one knows for sure and there is such a mind meld between the Church and its prominent members that there is hardly need for the Church to even try to exert control. These Mormons all think so alike that nothing ever has to be said.

And this is where it usually stops. Because the media only knows Mormonism by its odd extremities, it exhausts its list of interesting topics quickly. The reporting becomes vapid. Religion moves from center stage. The fact that a CEO or a politician or a cabinet member or some other influential member of society might be a Mormon is no longer deemed important.

Because the media is focused on externals. Because the sordid burns out quickly. Because no one has thought to ask a Mormon what it really means to be a Mormon.

Yet when the Saints are approached in the light by which they see themselves—as the only earthly heirs of the ancient priesthood of Aaron and Melchizedek—then a new list of questions begins to emerge.

“Sir, your Church is offended when it is called a ‘cult.’ But if your Church sees itself as the ‘only true Church,’ possessors of the only true priesthood on earth, then don’t Mormons see every other religion in the world as some kind of cult?”

“Sir, if you are a Melchizedek Priest, have you ever prayed for anyone to be healed? Have they been? Have you ever seen angels? Can you confer the gifts of the Holy Spirit? Can you confer them on me?”

“Sir, are there prophets who speak to you regularly? Do you prophesy to others? What will you do if someone you revere as a prophet gives you a revelation about what you should do in a public office? How can you refuse it? How can you be sure it is or isn’t the true word of God?”

“Sir, if your Church has been given the keys to the only true Aaronic and Melchizedek Priesthoods on earth, then what does this say about the Jews? Are they deceived about who they are? And does becoming a Mormon literally change a person’s blood so they become the seed of Abraham, as Joseph Smith taught? And who exactly will be in control of Jerusalem when Jesus Christ returns?”

These, then, are questions nearer the meaning of Mormonism that the Saints themselves hold dear and these get us closer to understanding how an LDS politician or CEO or educator understands both his public life as well as his life in this world.

What the Mormon view of Mormonism also tells us is how we have to approach the faith. There is no Mormon systematic theology or final theological voice. The text of Mormonism is Mormon history. In fact, there is a direct connection between each major phase of the Mormon past and what most every Mormon believes and practices today. But the story has to be told and its meaning understood.

This has not been easy for most Americans. Not only is religion of any kind seldom taught in our schools, but Mormon history is such an odd creature that it requires a certain openness, a willingness to take seriously—even for a moment— a story our Mormon friends believe was begun by angels, powered by prophecy, sustained by miracles, and made heroic by men destined to be divine. This history, though, is the main text of the faith that has now reached critical mass in the United States and it is well worth considering for this reason alone.

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Excerpted from The Mormonizing of America by Stephen Mansfield, © 2012.

Published by Worthy Publishing, a division of Worthy Media, Inc., Brentwood, TN. www.worthypublishing.com. Used by permission. Tell us what you thought of this excerpt on Twitter: #Mormonizing @WorthyPub


TOPICS: Other non-Christian; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics; Theology
KEYWORDS: antichristian; apostasy; inman; lds; mittromney; mormon
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To: svcw; All

No, it is called telling the truth...


41 posted on 07/01/2012 9:45:58 AM PDT by KevinDavis (Radical Islam is a bigger threat than the LDS...)
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To: Colofornian
"Go out on a ledge...give a solid prediction: Which of these states will Romney win?"

I can't tell you. I am no psychic who can predict the future, nor would I want to be (it's a sin).

You seem to be quite intent on "predicting" the future....which is against His law.

Did your "psychic" tell you these things?

42 posted on 07/01/2012 9:49:14 AM PDT by NoGrayZone (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothing.)
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To: Colofornian; Artcore; Big Horn
I made my comment in response to somebody talking about the strong stance the LDS church had taken against porn. It hasn't been effective.

On the other hand, when posters claim thing like "Mitt Romney's grandfather was a polygamist," I point out that he wasn't and lead them through the family tree.

I'm interested in Mormon history (Mormon, because much of that history pre-dates formation of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, with a hyphen) much more than theology. I just get irritated when facts of history are altered or denied.

As for the theology, I believe that everyone is entitled to his or her religious beliefs.

43 posted on 07/01/2012 9:49:26 AM PDT by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it)
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To: KevinDavis
Prove that Swaggert, Shuller & Roberts "Fleeced" others...?

Swaggert was guilty of adultery, not fraud.

The other two's "marketing" could be deemed suspect...but before you go on with your outright libel and slander...perhaps you should do the proper thing and simply "repent" of bearing false witness vs. a few of your neighbors...

44 posted on 07/01/2012 9:51:03 AM PDT by Colofornian (Saying Mitt would keep past political promises is like prophesying that Gumby won't bend anymore)
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To: KevinDavis
Exactly my point. Unfortunately, most religions now a days seems to focus on fleecing people, rather then spreading His Word.

Anyone one of us, who read their Bible, knew this time was coming.

I just didn't think I'd be living in it. I always saw it SOOOOOO far away, because I simply could not imagine it happening.

45 posted on 07/01/2012 9:56:27 AM PDT by NoGrayZone (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothing.)
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To: Colofornian; All
Simple they lived lavish lifestyles people gave to them. They are nothing about shysters. My grandmother almost gave money to Swaggert..

They give Christians a bad name.. By the way the link in the article, it doesn't work..
46 posted on 07/01/2012 9:57:14 AM PDT by KevinDavis (Radical Islam is a bigger threat than the LDS...)
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To: NoGrayZone; All

I’m not worried about the LDS... To me Radical Islam is worse..


47 posted on 07/01/2012 10:03:08 AM PDT by KevinDavis (Radical Islam is a bigger threat than the LDS...)
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To: svcw

No deflection intended. I am not Catholic, but have many Catholic friends.

I was raised Lutheran and decided to go back to the church I was raised in.

He was NOT there. I thought it was me. Later I found out they were a part of the “evangelical” part of the Lutheran church.

It’s not just Catholics. One thing I still hold against them is the horrible way they treated their congregation, in which the young ones were treated in a perversion way....and their cover up of it all.

I do believe MOST religions in this day DO NOT abide by His Word.


48 posted on 07/01/2012 10:04:30 AM PDT by NoGrayZone (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothing.)
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To: KevinDavis

Anyone worried about the LDS need to have their heads examined.


49 posted on 07/01/2012 10:09:53 AM PDT by NoGrayZone (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothing.)
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To: KevinDavis; svcw; All
"No, it is called telling the truth..."

The light of truth brings out the ugly. I care no more.

I keep remembering, when I come across such people, what the Lord said.....Remember, they hated me before they hated you (probably not word for word, but still the TRUTH).

50 posted on 07/01/2012 10:16:25 AM PDT by NoGrayZone (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothing.)
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To: Colofornian
Two Studies Find Depression Widespread in Utah

Utah leads the nation in rates of depression

You'd be depressed too if you thought you had to do all you could to earn God's grace.

51 posted on 07/01/2012 10:19:20 AM PDT by Graybeard58
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To: Colofornian
Go out on a ledge...give a solid prediction: Which of these states will Romney win?

CA? WA? OR? Nevada? Maryland? NY? NJ?

Don't forget my state, Illinois.

52 posted on 07/01/2012 10:21:33 AM PDT by Graybeard58
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To: greyfoxx39

Oh my, there goes me going “nuts”. Please, spare me.


53 posted on 07/01/2012 10:26:23 AM PDT by NoGrayZone (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothing.)
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To: KevinDavis

I agree 100% exposing momronISM is not hate.


54 posted on 07/01/2012 11:18:56 AM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: KevinDavis

I agree 100% exposing mormonISM is not hate.


55 posted on 07/01/2012 11:19:14 AM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: NoGrayZone

You actually don’t know anything about mormonISM do you?
The danger of mormonism is to the eternal soul.


56 posted on 07/01/2012 11:22:24 AM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: greyfoxx39

I am always amazed by people who defend mormonISM who nothing nothing about it.


57 posted on 07/01/2012 11:23:49 AM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: svcw
"The danger of mormonism is to the eternal soul."

Everything is a danger to the eternal soul.

58 posted on 07/01/2012 11:32:37 AM PDT by NoGrayZone (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothing.)
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To: svcw

The fact you choose a mooslim over a Mormon is a danger to my soul.


59 posted on 07/01/2012 11:36:27 AM PDT by NoGrayZone (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothing.)
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To: Colofornian

I am still waiting for you Mormon haters to provide us with ANYTHING in which Mormons KILL those who do not agree with them.


60 posted on 07/01/2012 11:38:53 AM PDT by NoGrayZone (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothing.)
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