“the only thing i find ‘stunning’ is these other so-called ‘rational, logical’ atheist types dont follow suit.”
Many atheists today come from the Darwinist school. They believe in accident, not reason. They don’t believe in morality in the first place so they do not try to argue that it is possible to be moral without G-d.
Many in my generation are not very religious including myself(I'm mid 20's)-lot of atheism/agnostics...we all believe you can be moral without God. I have never run across people my age who don't believe in morality..most think the countries morals suck including myself.
Most Atheists these days I have had the misfourtune of knowing have been the whole “Millitant Fundamentalist Atheist” types. These are the types that bring a lot of shame to the ones that call themselves Moderate. Atheists but are actually Agnostics.