Posted on 06/19/2012 10:07:14 AM PDT by Colofornian
Washington- Mitt Romney's Earthly goals seem to mesh nicely with his goals as a high priest in the Mormon church. But why don't we pretend to let the presumptive GOP candidate tell us himself, which he would if he were interested in discussing his religion.
Hello. Im Mitt Romney. I am a Temple Mormon, a High Priest, and as such I have sworn blood oaths of sacrifice, obedience and consecration to the church and the Kingdom of God. My perfect obedience to these laws will allow me to become a god in the next life, the literal father of the peoples of a new and different earth. I am truly a Presidential candidate with an actual, definable god complex. What I say about politics are things I have actually said. What I say about Mormonism is compiled from official Mormon texts and websites.
Since prophets have said I am destined to be your president, it is important to know what I believe.
1. We can fix the economy if we have fewer cops, firefighters and teachers.
2. I made Massachusetts drop from 36th to 47th out of the 50 state in jobs when I was governor. I want to do the same for America.
3. Mormon leaders call our empire the Kingdom of God. However, our God is an extraterrestrial from Kolob; and the Zion to which our spirit-brother-of-Lucifer Jesus Christ will return to reign is Independence, Missouri. Buy land there NOW!
4. When Im elected, and you try to get insurance with a preexisting condition, youre screwed.
5. Its a sin to drink coffee.
6. I love when trees are the "right height."
7. I dont know what a donut is.
8. We can balance the budget by increasing spending on defense and cutting taxes the wealthy by raising taxes and cutting benefits for the poor and middle class.
9. God has a flesh and blood body. And hes just one of several Gods.
10. I dont remember what I said, but I stand by it.
11. The Garden of Eden was in Jackson County, Missouri. Its STILL a nice place.
12. I will make more jobs. Its not just because I love job creators, its because I love jobs.
13. Obama modeled the Affordable Care Act after what I did in Massachusetts. That means its bad.
14. I wear special underwear, like all Mormons. But Im not allowed to speak of it.
15. God commands against lying. But its OK when I lie about what Obama says because hes a negro and negroes werent even human until the 12 Apostles of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints said they were in 1978, which is after Obama was born, so YOU do the math.
16. Gay marriage is wrong. The definition of marriage was set by God as one man to one woman.
17. My great-grandfather had several wives.
18. My great-great grandfather was one of the original Mormon apostles, and HE had 12 wives.
19. I believe we can get health care to act more like a consumer market, and if we do that and we stop making it like a big government-managed utility, were going to see better prices, lower costs and better care. Its happened everywhere weve applied consumer-market principles. Like the oil companies. Have you ever paid LESS for a gallon of gas than you are now?
20. I believe that states have responsibility to care for people in the way they feel best. Its important for us, in my view, to make sure that every American has access to good health care. And no, saying that the government should make sure every American has access to good health care while saying that the states have the responsibility to care for people in the way they feel best are NOT mutually exclusive statements.
21. If your marriage is sealed in the temple, then you will be married forever, in whichever of the three heavens God decides you belong in.
22. Oh, and when you die as a Mormon, you get your own planet and become a God. Really.
23. We were all spirits before we were born and lived with God, who used to be a human but attained Godhood. God sent us to Earth at a time predetermined by him so we could get experiences that we couldnt possibly get hanging out with God, who is capable of all things, except, of course, for providing us with experiences that we can only get on Earth. Although you WERE worthy to live with God as a spirit BEFORE he sent you to Earth, you have to live on EARTH to PROVE you are worthy to hang out with God forever. See? Its easy when you stop TRYING to think.
24. The LDS Church teaches that at the end of the world everyone will be resurrected. They also believe that almost everyone will go to heaven, which is divided up into three main levels. Bad people go to the lowest, the Telestial Kingdom (Doctrine and Covenants 76:81-86). Good people, who were not Mormons, will go to the middle level, the Terrestrial Kingdom (D&C 76:71-79). Mormons will go to the highest level, the Celestial Kingdom (D&C 76:50-70). However, only those who merit the highest part of the Celestial Kingdom will have Eternal Life [the ability to live in a marriage relationship and continue to beget childrensee D&C 132:20-24, also see Mormons Hope to Become Gods of Their Own Worlds]. All others have immortality [which is defined as the ability to live forever in a single condition, not married and no future children] but do not have Eternal Life. One must be married in the LDS temple and then obey all of the Mormon regulations to get to the highest degree of heaven. The first time a Mormon attends the temple endowment ceremony he/she will be given a new name [usually a Bible name like Peter or Mary or the name of European royalty]. These will supposedly be their names in eternity. The wife must tell her husband her new name, and no one else, as he is supposed to call her up in the resurrection. If he does not call her up she would still resurrect, but not as his wife. When a Mormon returns to the temple, on various occasions, to go through the endowment ceremony, he/she will stand in by proxy for a dead person. For instance, a man may be going through the ritual in behalf of his dead uncle. A new temple name would be assigned to the dead person, which could be Joseph, David, Paul, etc. In the case of a dead woman, a Mormon woman would stand in by proxy for her, and the dead woman would be given a new temple name, like Rachael, Eve, Rebecca, etc.
25. My ultimate goal is not the Presidency. It is, like all Mormons, to become a god and procreate for all eternity. Lotsa boinkin! Woo hah!
Now, let's enjoy a brief video about how I was flummoxed while trying to identify a tasty-appearing chocolate-covered pastry devices. They look quite delicious, Im telling ya!
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Actually that is not entirely correct, but some how I suspect you know that...
Yes some would think that this this is not correct. I’m trying look at this from the Orthodox point of view. Using the view point that heresy is deviation from orthodox view.
'we' are OVERWHELMING against ROMNEY.
Yes, but unfortunately we were not unified behind one not-Romney in the primary. Same problem would apply at convention if pledged delegates violated their pledges.
If you were looking at this from an orthodox point of view you would realize that the LDS fall outside the family of Christians.
>>>”To become the Republican Party nominee, the candidate must win a simple majority of 1,191 of the 2,380 total delegates ..”
Romney has 1422 pledged delegates.
http://www.cnn.com/election/2012/primaries/scorecard/statebystate/r
I think it unlikely to have a different nominee.
Thanks for your reply.
>>”Which of the 300 churches in the US is the standard for determining heretical teachings?”
For purposes of election to office? None. That, of course, is my point. Individuals decide, but my heresy may be your orthodoxy.
In more general terms, for Christianity, the Nicene Creed is a common standard, but it’s use and interpretation vary greatly. I would say the divinity of Christ and the Most Holy Trinity and the canon of Holy Scripture are bare minimums for most.
While Barry talks like a Universal Unitarian, I think his religion is closest to that of his ex-pastor and that of Trinity United Church of Christ.
Of course Wright and TUCC veered off strongly into the racist Black liberation theology based on the works of James Hal Cone and shares much in common with Black Muslims under Louis Farrakhan.
But at least he’s not LDS!
:)
Ok I now understand you position. That little explanation helped.
100 sects of Mormonism ?
Um no, not hardly. All three see each other as brothers in Christ.
But nice try...
Um no, not hardly. All three see each other as brothers in Christ.
But nice try...
#1...the UCC (United Church of Christ) was the FIRST denomination that claimed to be "Christian" to accept homosexuals as pastors -- this was back in the 1960s -- before even the homosexual community was advocating for such a thing...showing how liberal they are...
#2... Listen...with that closing remark you made...while the UCC portends to be "Christian," Obama doesn't portend to be "conservative" (nor does he claim UCC membership, anymore)...
Romney DOES claim to represent conservatism...
So the big distinctive there is counterfeiting...
Obama doesn't pretend to be a conservative; Romney does...
Obama doesn't even put a pretense out there anymore of linking to a "Christian-in-Name-Only" denomination; Romney does -- in being part of a church that misuses/abuses the Name of Jesus Christ...
If that comparison is supposed to make Obama look like the best candidate, it fell quite short.
:)
proof
(It wasn't)
If you ask me to endorse either a reincarnated Hitler running as the "RINO" candidate...vs. the Dem Anti-Christ (as in THE Anti-Christ)...you're not going to find me endorsing the (R) guy...like you would a lot of FREEPERs...
A lot of FREEPERs would tell you -- even in the above mythical scenario...
...ya gotta vote for the "lesser of two evils"...
...or, an "ABTAC" version of ABO ("Anybody But THE Anti-Christ")
...or, who would have a less negative impact on our culture...
...or you name the political relativistic poison...
And, of course, it's this kind of political relativism that they are teaching their children and grandchildren -- setting them up for eventually voting for an (R) guy to the left of Obama...and somebody who really could be like a reincarnated Hitler...
Invoking Godwin's Law and Casuistry Clauses ...
Glad to see you finally get it...
bttt
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