[Zhang Fei]

The Battle of Crooked River was a rescue mission mounted by a group of Mormons to retrieve fellow Mormons whom they thought were at risk of being massacred by the Missouri state militia, which in fact, had merely ejected Mormons from their property, which was confiscated in its entireity. The Missouri governor's extermination order might have been a *mere* expulsion order, but it resulted in the confiscation of all Mormon property in the state of Missouri without recompense. How would you feel if the state of California took all your property and kicked you out of the state?

[Colofornian]

The Battle of Crooked River was a rescue mission mounted by a group of Mormons to retrieve fellow Mormons whom they thought were at risk of being massacred by the Missouri state militia...

•On October 18, 1838, Joseph Smith, Hyrum Smith, Lyman Wight, D. W. Patten at the head of 40 men made a descent on Gallatin, the county seat of Daviess, and they burned the only store and stole their goods. Previous to the 25th of October a great part of the Mormons residing in Caldwell County had returned home with their dividend of plunder.
* 6 days before this attack: • On October 25, 1838, the Battle of Crooked River: Mormon forces attacked (unknowingly?) the Missouri state militia under the command of Samuel Bogart. This incident became one of the principal points of conflicts in 1838 Missouri. The battle resulted in the death of three militia and the LDS leader, David Patten. One of the militia was taken prisoner by the Mormons. Source: http://www.carm.org/religious-movements/mormonism/are-christians-persecuting-mormons

[Colofornian]

...it resulted in the confiscation of all Mormon property in the state of Missouri without recompense. How would you feel if the state of California took all your property and kicked you out of the state?

First of all, how again does this relate to 1857 Southern Utah?

Are you telling me that if 11 say Baptist or Presbyterian families in your area had their property confiscated today -- that some other Baptists or Presbyterians -- 19 years from now -- would be justified in committing mass murder against people who had NOTHING WHATSOEVER to do with that confiscation?

Such lack of reasoning absolutely astounds me!!!!

Where did I get 11 families?

Joseph Fielding Smith (lds "prophet") said mob of 500 (Church History, p. 135) no violence but threatened it July 23, 1833. Smith says "about 1200 members forced to leave Jackson co." (p. 209) but the committee which forced them out only specified 11 families according to Smith earlier in the book. They forced 9 of 11 families to leave within a few mos. warning -- and the two remaining would finish up their business goods (Smith, p. 135).

[Elsie]

...but it resulted in the confiscation of all Mormon property in the state of Missouri without recompense.

Oh?

Explain the RLDS church.

[Elsie]

How would you feel if the state of California took all your property and kicked you out of the state?

Kinda like...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_American_internment