From the article: In northwestern Arkansas, at least two monuments commemorate the massacre, including a towering wooden cross erected just six years ago. On it is carved a biblical saying: “Vengeance is mine; I will repay saith the Lord.”
A BYU rep (Lawrence G. Coates BYU-Idaho) will cover: “Healing Bitterness: The Mountain Meadows Massacre” -- showing that Mormons still recognize they've done very little to alleviate the bitterness over these past 150 some years... (Mina Estevez is also speaking on: “Murdering History: Literature and the Mountain Meadows Massacre”
Do we all remember the images of some Muslims 'round the world dancing over 9/11 in 2001?
These were Muslims not only excusing the behavior of the terrorists, but were celebrating it.
That's essentially -- at least in part -- what we had Mormon leaders doing...
Re: the first Memorial placed @ the massacre site: "The original Rock Cairn and Cross were desecrated by Brigham Young on May 25, 1861 as recorded in church historian and forth President of the CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER DAY SAINTS, Wilford Woodruffs diary. The Tyrannical Prophet Brigham Young stated at the time of the desecration; 'Vengeance is mine and I have had a little.' The Rock Cairn was leveled to the ground."
Source: BRIGHAM YOUNG DESECRATED THE CHRISTIAN CROSS AND ROCK CAIRN
In 1858, Young was given a pardon for his part in the MMM atrocities.
Young and other Mormon leaders have all excused the Mormon mass-murderers -- at least 42 known Mormons by never bringing them to justice...or even ex-communicating them (two were; but were reinstated later -- one while still adlive; the other after his death)...
From the article: Romney addressed it during his 2007 presidential campaign in response to a reporter’s question. “That was a terrible, awful act carried out by members of my faith,” he told the Associated Press. “There are bad people in any church, and it’s true of members of my church, too.”
The mass-murderers included an Lds bishop, an Lds "to be" bishop, two stake presidents, a counselor to a stake president...
(So much for people -- like Mitt Romney -- claiming there's "murderers" in every church...such "murderers" in other churches aren't readily elevated to--or retained as -- church leadership...like what happened with these mass murderers)
One of the Mormon stake presidents had been in that role about a year when the massacre occurred...as a "reward" for his part in the slaughter, Lds "prophets" Brigham Young and John Taylor left him in that role. He (William Dame) wound up serving 24 years as an Lds stake president (1856-1880).
(Oh...and for those who highlight Muslim terrorism to the exclusion of Mormon terrorism, did God frown on Mormon terrorists less because they were Mormon?)
Also, dozens of other Mormons were involved in the MMM (and who are also named even by Lds sources) -- these are ones who had probable "lesser" accomplice/perp roles.
Muslim turned communists turned hate-whitarian Christian is above reproach, but Romney is responsible for actions of Mormons in 1858, back when the US government was persecuting Mormons?
This is typical Mormon PR as its best (worst).
I can't tell you how many times I've seen sources claim that Mormon families "adopted" 17 of the youngest children. All as if this was some "compassionate" loving thing to do.
Funny that when Charles Lindberg's baby was kidnapped, 'twas kidnapping...but when Mormons kidnapped 17 infants, toddlers and primary grade kids -- all while slaughtering some 7 and 8 yo at the same time (as well as older kids) -- it was an "adoption."
Mormons held these children hostage for about two years until the Army had to come and rescue them...Notice, no effort was made by these Mormons or Mormon leaders to return the children over all that time...nor were these Mormons arrested for kidnapping.
***In northwestern Arkansas, at least two monuments commemorate the massacre,****
Two other wagon trains were also attacked. The Miltmore Train and the Shepherd Train. Booth suffered loss of life from attackers some of who were blond blue eyed bearded, spoke English and dressed like Indians.
Fancher once owned 200 acres about two miles south of where I live.
There is also a monument in downtown Harrison, Arkansas where the train started from.
Brigham Young not only kidnapped those 17 children after murdering their unarmed parents in cold blood...
He also held them for ransom...
The US government had to pay him $10,000 (1860 money) to get them back...
Notice the pathetic sheer reductionism exercised by Mitt Romney in 2007.
He reduced...
...mass murder...
...carried out over several days [some were killed/wounded in the initial siege attempt]...
...Kidnapping of 17 children & held hostage by Brigham Young for ransom...
...Theft of prize horses...
...$...
...wagons...
...clothes off the corpses...
...you name it...
...generations of cover-up...
...all to ONE single "act"...
Mitt Romney is a pathetic human being.
You really want to go down this path? If we want to hold people accountable for the actions of their ancestors, I can assure you none of our hands are clean.
Come on Colo...you have added to the title with the “[1st 9/11 terrorism was Lds]” which is another deliberate attempt to equate the LDS Church with our nation’s enemies.
As I have stated to you and others before e I will not sit back and countenance such a willful, and blatant distortion.
What happened in Mountain Meadows 155 years ago was a horrific, terrible act. One man was executed for it...but a bunch more should have been. There is no excuse or justification for what they did.
However, it was not the 1st act of “terrorism” on these shores by any stretch, nor was it the worst up until that time.
Others were committed by Insians, and also by whites (including by Christians) from the earliest times of the colonization of this country.
I listed them once before in another thread that brought up the Mountain Meadows Massacre to try and smear the Church today.
Romney spoke to this himself and called it what it was.
Sadly, there are evil people in any gathering of any appreciable numbers of people almost anywhere.
God rest the souls of those settlers who were killed and bless and comfort their descendants.
And God bless and rest those LDS people who were massacred and killed in Missouri and Illinois 15-20 years earlier when the LDS were brutally persecuted and pushed out into the Intermountain West to the Great Basin.
Both acts of murder were horrific, wrong, and inexcusable.
Oh, one last thing (unless my other post got pulled, too): attacks on MittCare for something that happened that long ago are futile and make the critics look silly. Want to go afer Mitt? There’s a lot more fruitful and convincing targets re modern Mormonism and Romney’s liberal policies (MittCare, anti-gun, big govt, etc.) Those are relevant!
Every single Mormon, including Romney, is personally responsible for the Mountain Meadows Massacre, just as every single non-black person, including the Colofornian and me, is responsible for slavery (Go, Reparations, Go!), and just as every single non-Native-American is responsible for the massacre of “The Indians” in the 1800s and just as every single European is responsible for smallpox decimating the Native American populations in the 1600s.
It all makes sense to me.
Do I dislike, distrust, and think Mormoms are a cult?.... Yes
Do I think this event has even one iota of a matter on presidential politics?....NO.
The libs are reaching, and it won't stick.