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Judge Should go to Jail, Not Pastor Who Taught Discipline of Children!
Email Subscription From Dr. Boys | June 2, 2012 | Don Boys, Ph.D.

Posted on 06/02/2012 7:46:09 PM PDT by John Leland 1789

Recently a Wisconsin judge seriously overreached her authority when she sentenced Philip Caminite, pastor of Aleitheia Bible Church to two years in prison for teaching his flock to discipline their children! Such illegal judicial actions are one reason many of us think many judges rank alongside used car salesmen, and I don’t mean to insult used car salesmen by the comparison. I suggest that Judge Maryann Sumi might improve her status by selling cars, not sending preachers to prison.

The pastor is to be supervised for six years after serving his time and is forbidden to have any contact with his church and to have no leadership in any church. So we have a court stomping on the constitutional rights of a preacher and telling him where he can go to church and forbidding him to follow his calling of preaching. I wonder if Maryann has ever read the First Amendment. If this case stands, it will be a Damocles sword hanging over the head of every preacher, priest, and rabbi in the nation. In fact, every church leader should preach on this subject next Sunday, and end with “No judge or any other official will tell me what to preach. Never, never, never.” Assistant District Attorney Shelly Rusch wanted the preacher to be sentenced to five years in prison and 15 years of extended supervision, calling him "the spoke in the wheel of this conspiracy." Shelly is as confused or radical as Maryann since the pastor was teaching what true preachers have taught for centuries. Sorry dear, not a conspiracy. Shelly should be back in her kitchen baking cookies. The judged said that the sentence, in part, was “intended to send a message that child abuse will not be tolerated and to prevent Caminiti from once again teaching members of his church to spank their children with wooden objects to cure them of selfishness.” The judge is not thinking or is skewed in her thinking since teaching people to discipline their children is not child abuse. In fact, I have always taught that parents who refuse to reasonably discipline their children (involving spanking for rebellion and disobedience) are child abusers!

Recent studies in the U.S. and Sweden prove that sparing the rod does spoil the child. Sweet little Johnny, without discipline, will become Big Bad John. Another study published in the Akron Law Review a couple years ago examined criminal records and found that children raised without spanking are much more likely to be involved in crime. Many anti-spanking “experts” have seen the light while the Wisconsin judge, prosecutor and the jury are still stumbling in the darkness.

The next time I have a speaking engagement in Wisconsin I will be sure to instruct my listeners to properly discipline their children. Maryann and Shelly are invited to attend and sit in the amen corner. They may even “hit the sawdust trail.” The preacher was not guilty of abusing a child; he was sent to prison for teaching parents to discipline their children! Since when does a judge, any judge, on any court have the authority to tell a preacher what he can teach? The judge is an idiot or a radical ideologue. Maryann whined that the preacher showed no indications of being remorseful or repentant, but then he should not be since he was teaching the truth. Maryann refused the preacher the courtesy of being free during the appeal, a privilege that is often given the most heinous criminals. Many judges think their rulings from the bench can make something just when it is unjust! It may be legal but it is not just. Many judges stand in front of a mirror awed with themselves in their black sheets indicating they have a messianic complex. They seem to be waiting for a vacancy in the Trinity! It is common for them to think they can walk on water, maybe explaining why so many judges are all wet.

I am convinced the real child abusers are incompetent, intolerant, and insensitive judges who send parents to jail and place well-adjusted children in state homes that are often rampant with sodomy, drugs, violence, etc. Of course, the state homes are licensed! There is no doubt that some judges are child abusers.

Prosecuting attorneys, determined to “cut another notch on their guns,” callously prosecute preachers and parents without regard to what is best for the children and, therefore, are child abusers.

Judges, police officers, and prosecutors along with the other child abusers—should go to jail! Yes, I know that jails are a bad environment filled with killers, rapists, drug dealers, child molesters, the scum of the earth, but I don’t think the judges, prosecuting attorneys, and zealous social workers will corrupt the inmates much further!

Pastors had better come out of the closet! March on the Bastille! Mount the barricades. Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition; the ammunition being courage, commitment, conscience, and convictions. Your children and freedom to preach God’s message are in the balance!

Let’s kick officials out of office who abuse the rights of Christian leaders, and bring them before the bar of justice for their attacks on church and home leadership. In my opinion, the preacher should have told the judge she was out of order and her ruling would be totally ignored and she could hear him preach next Sunday at the Aleitheia Bible Church. Of course, he would go to jail immediately for contempt; but then, of course, he would be guilty of contempt of court, even though totally justified.

Surely he will be set free when his case comes before sensible people and he should sue the prosecutor, the judge, and the county for religious discrimination, kidnapping, interference with Christian worship, and anything else that can be thrown in.

Moreover, this is a perfect example that cries for jury nullification, but then, that’s another day.

Copyright 2012, Don Boys, Ph.D.

(Dr. Don Boys is a former member of the Indiana House of Representatives, author of 14 books, frequent guest on television and radio talk shows, and wrote columns for USA Today for 8 years. Three years ago, the second edition of ISLAM: America's Trojan Horse! was published, and his new eBook, The God Haters is available for $9.99 from www.thegodhaters.com. These columns go to newspapers, magazines, television, and radio stations. His other web sites are www.cstnews.com and www.Muslimfact.com. Contact Don for an interview or talk show.)


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1 posted on 06/02/2012 7:46:21 PM PDT by John Leland 1789
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To: John Leland 1789
Don Boys, Ph.D.

I don't imagine that Dr. Boys earned his Ph.D in the use of paragraphs, punctuation and coherency.

2 posted on 06/02/2012 7:55:36 PM PDT by Uncle Slayton
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To: John Leland 1789

Spanking children with wooden objects hardly seems likely to be an issue we all embrace. This oiece is a bit overwrought.


3 posted on 06/02/2012 8:00:17 PM PDT by cajungirl
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To: cajungirl
"Spanking children with wooden objects hardly seems likely to be an issue we all embrace. This oiece is a bit overwrought."

We all certainly don't embrace the same things on FR.

4 posted on 06/02/2012 8:06:29 PM PDT by John Leland 1789
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To: John Leland 1789

I wonder what what he would do to people who teach the crap of the Koran?


5 posted on 06/02/2012 8:14:13 PM PDT by factmart
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To: John Leland 1789

I wonder what what he would do to people who teach the crap of the Koran?


6 posted on 06/02/2012 8:29:28 PM PDT by factmart
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To: John Leland 1789

So, a preacher who teaches the Bible, wherein it infers that sparing the rod spoils the child, cannot advise paddling an errant child?
Is the judge prepared to try Biblical figures, such as Isahia or Jesus in abstentia for their teachings or the tenets of their faith?
Perhaps the judge will seek to ban the Bible for teaching what she opposes.


7 posted on 06/02/2012 8:31:40 PM PDT by Thumper1960 (A modern so-called "Conservative" is a shadow of a wisp of a vertebrate human being.)
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To: Thumper1960
"So, a preacher who teaches the Bible, wherein it infers that sparing the rod spoils the child, cannot advise paddling an errant child? Is the judge prepared to try Biblical figures, such as Isahia or Jesus in abstentia for their teachings or the tenets of their faith? Perhaps the judge will seek to ban the Bible for teaching what she opposes."

Thank you. This is precisely Dr. Boys greater point.

That judge is saying, in effect, if society is brainwashed to not like what the Bible teaches, those who continue to teach the the Bible will be imprisoned.

8 posted on 06/02/2012 8:41:09 PM PDT by John Leland 1789
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To: Thumper1960
Was he arrested for saying parents should spank their kids? Or was he arrested because he encouraged his followers to beat 18 month olds with wooden dowels for crying?
9 posted on 06/02/2012 8:49:30 PM PDT by icwhatudo (This is not a choice between Romney&Reagan-Its between Romney & most radical leftist Pres in history)
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To: Uncle Slayton

Sumi is that leftist witch who apparently sees little wrong in making blatantly political rulings as she has done throughout the Walker recall debacle. I just hope that once the recall effort is defeated, she will be impeached or otherwise removed. Her decisions make a mockery of the law.


10 posted on 06/02/2012 8:57:45 PM PDT by Postman
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To: icwhatudo

Beat or thwack a misbehaving child? Did the pastor state: ‘’Beat your infants’’ or was that action of a parent? Common sense, people.
Common sense.


11 posted on 06/02/2012 9:03:55 PM PDT by Thumper1960 (A modern so-called "Conservative" is a shadow of a wisp of a vertebrate human being.)
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To: Thumper1960
Yes...he did.

"They described using wooden dowels and wooden spoons on the bare skin of children, starting as young as two months old."

""Police added: 'Phil expressed his belief that the Bible dictates the use of a rod over a hand to punish children 'He stated that children only a few months old are 'worthy' of the rod and that by 'one and a half months,' a child is old enough to be spanked."

Beating 2 month olds with wooden sticks is sick. Common sense, people! Common sense!

12 posted on 06/02/2012 9:11:28 PM PDT by icwhatudo (This is not a choice between Romney&Reagan-Its between Romney & most radical leftist Pres in history)
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To: John Leland 1789

Only the beginning. Europe and Canada are already imprisoning preachers and homeschool parents.


13 posted on 06/02/2012 9:15:11 PM PDT by stinkerpot65 (Global warming is a Marxist lie.)
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To: icwhatudo

I think that Liberals are worthy of incarceration in mental institutions and that those same liberals, failing successful treatments of their illness, should be executed.
Now, if someone does indeed blow the brains of an unreconstructed liberal all over their 0bamao campaign postered walls, am I guilty of their death?
A churchgoer who does everything preached by their pastor, even following the more graphic examples written in the Book, is either weakminded or a complete sheep.
Common sense, dude.......common sense.


14 posted on 06/02/2012 9:22:00 PM PDT by Thumper1960 (A modern so-called "Conservative" is a shadow of a wisp of a vertebrate human being.)
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To: Thumper1960

Ditto what Thumper said. Although I am at this point pretty much good with laws laid out in the Old Testament.


15 posted on 06/02/2012 9:54:07 PM PDT by ciaocotc
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WI Ping


16 posted on 06/02/2012 9:55:49 PM PDT by knittnmom (Save the earth! It's the only planet with chocolate!)
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To: Uncle Slayton

Perhaps Boys bought his PhD from the same diploma mill as James White.


17 posted on 06/02/2012 10:04:24 PM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: John Leland 1789

If the pastor was preaching murder you surely wouldn’t advocate a first amendment right to practice murder would you? Child abuse can not be overlooked just because the abuser has a religious belief. Just as polygamy has been outlawed and other various types of practices.


18 posted on 06/02/2012 10:36:21 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: Uncle Slayton

Amen


19 posted on 06/02/2012 10:37:15 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: icwhatudo

Thank you.

anyone who encourages spanking a 112/ month old baby is evil.


20 posted on 06/02/2012 10:41:14 PM PDT by cajungirl
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