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To: exDemMom
You do realize that just because you, personally, don't know something doesn't mean the knowledge doesn't exist, don't you?

Yup. You've hit it on the head. That's my entire argument summed up in one sentence. To re-state it: "My brain isn't big enough to understand Evolution, therefore Evolution isn't true." That's precisely what I'm saying.
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You really wish people argued with you at that level, don't you? I actually understand a fair amount about science. I could make a case in favor of Evolution if I wanted too -- but I wouldn't believe it. The point is: I understand your side of the debate. However, it is pretty obvious to me that you do not have an understanding of the non-Evolution side of the debate. All you have is scorn and contempt. You do not undertand your opponent -- you do not want to understand your opponent -- and so you make ineffectual arguments.

34 posted on 06/03/2012 10:32:58 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Like Emmett Till, Trayvon Martin has become simply a stick with which to beat Whites.)
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To: ClearCase_guy
Yup. You've hit it on the head. That's my entire argument summed up in one sentence. To re-state it: "My brain isn't big enough to understand Evolution, therefore Evolution isn't true." That's precisely what I'm saying. [/HEAVY sarcasm]

I'll be honest: every time I see some young-earth creationist (YEC) spout some claim that evolution isn't "proven", I cringe. I'd expect to see those kinds of claims at some anti-Christian parody site, where the goal is to make Christians look as stupid as possible. There are plenty of websites like that out there--the last thing *I* want to do is give them more material to mock us with.

When I see that kind of claim repeated uncritically, it tells me that the person repeating it saw it at some anti-science YEC website (or book, video, whatever), and didn't bother to fact check. While I don't necessarily expect people without a scientific education to be able to read original research reports, countless articles and books about evolution written for laypersons are available, and natural history museums are plentiful. If you don't understand evolution, or you are unaware of the vast amount of evidence for it, it is not because there is no evidence--it's because you refuse to see it.

You really wish people argued with you at that level, don't you? I actually understand a fair amount about science. I could make a case in favor of Evolution if I wanted too -- but I wouldn't believe it. The point is: I understand your side of the debate. However, it is pretty obvious to me that you do not have an understanding of the non-Evolution side of the debate. All you have is scorn and contempt. You do not undertand your opponent -- you do not want to understand your opponent -- and so you make ineffectual arguments.

No, what I really wish is that everyone who's bought into the notion that you either believe science, or you believe religion would realize that it's not an either-or proposition. Science and religion have different, mostly non-overlapping, roles in society. There is no reason that a Christian can't be a scientist, or that a scientist can't be a Christian (and most scientists I've met *are* people of faith). As long as YEC charlatans keep evoking susceptible people's emotions and pushing anti-science for self-gain, no one wins. Kids turn away from science because they believe they'll go to hell if they study it. Kids turn away from religion because it's nearly impossible to deny mountains of scientific evidence on the flimsy excuse that it's not in the Bible. Meanwhile, the US is dropping further behind in the areas of science and mathematics--and the number of Christians and people of any faith is dropping, as well. These are not good trends!

BTW, I *do* understand my opponent. YECs are emotion based--scientists are logic based. I'm well aware that logic does not convince emotional people, but I'll keep trying.

38 posted on 06/03/2012 7:16:51 PM PDT by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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