Posted on 05/23/2012 1:09:06 PM PDT by Gillibrand
Pope should be deposed if he accepts the SSPX back
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You made my day, thanks.
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It is fascinating, when I started posting here the SSPX was seen as “schismatic, heretical and borderline sedevacantist”, now according to Hans Sinkspur, err Kung, err Keung - well whatever, it is the Pope himself who is the bad guy! What a difference a decade makes.
These were the days...
Rome never claimed that they were invalidly ordained or consecrated. Rome consider even a lot of the sedavacantist ordinations valid. But illicit, of course.
He calls SSPX orders not only illicit but also invalid. How does he know? "Well, look......it's right here in this document written by Paul VI", says he, "the Pope said so!!" thus playing the ace card of papal authority when it suits his purpose.
Next moment, he's telling us that the current Pope has no authority and must be ignored and indeed, dismissed.
Comical and arbitrary fellow.
Accepting the Vatican back??? You know that is the same impious idea expressed by most National "Catholic" Reporter fish wrapper readers and phonies. As to SSPX, ecclesiastical revolution against legitimate authority is NOT TRADITIONAL CATHOLICISM. Has not been, is not and will never be.
Unless your other name is Benedict XVI, no one died and left you with any authority to judge popes.
Hans Kung’s manifest lunacy does not by any means clear SSPX of any of the many charges against it.
True that, but the Papal fiat of His Holiness Benedict XVI will.
The only problem with your position is you are being Catholic than the Pope to do it? You think the Pope doesn’t know what he is doing. He’s been involved with this for more than 30 years.
Same here. Oh, well...
His Holiness will exercise his authority as he sees fit. Unlike some folks, I acknowledge that he may exercise it in ways I don’t like ... but that the authority is his not mine.
Nick, I would hope that by now you would know better than to presume to read my mind or tell me what I’m thinking. It’s rude, it’s a violation of forum rules ... and you’re mistaken in any case.
This gave me chills!! The apostolic succession and the unbroken chain of priests formed as a result of the laying on of hands at ordination is so miraculou and joyful. The Catholic Chuch as a supernatural institution is awesome!!
Truly Amazing!
Why would Luke write this in Acts 5 for All Christians especially for the Catholic Church for Two thousand years. This Governing Organization for centuries still with a leadership tracing back. If it was for naught it would of died out but no we are still here since even this incident in Acts. It is the Holy Spirit supernatural! Amen!
Act 5:
32 And we are witnesses of these things and the Holy Ghost, whom God hath given to all that obey him.
33 When they had heard these things, they were cut to the heart, and they thought to put them to death.
34 But one in the council rising up, a Pharisee, named Gamaliel, a doctor of the law, respected by all the people, commanded the men to be put forth a little while.
35 And he said to them: Ye men of Israel, take heed to yourselves what you intend to do, as touching these men.
36 For before these days rose up Theodas, affirming himself to be somebody, to whom a number of men, about four hundred, joined themselves: who was slain; and all that believed him were scattered, and brought to nothing.
37 After this man, rose up Judas of Galilee, in the days of the enrolling, and drew away the people after him: he also perished; and all, even as many as consented to him, were dispersed.
38 And now, therefore, I say to you, refrain from these men, and let them alone; for if this council or this work be of men, it will come to nought;
39 But if it be of God, you cannot overthrow it, lest perhaps you be found even to fight against God. And they consented to him.
40 And calling in the apostles, after they had scourged them, they charged them that they should not speak at all in the name of Jesus; and they dismissed them.
41 And they indeed went from the presence of the council, rejoicing that they were accounted worthy to suffer reproach for the name of Jesus.
42 And every day they ceased not in the temple, and from house to house, to teach and preach Christ Jesus.
HAYDOCK'S COMMENTARY ON ACTS 5
Ver. 34. Gamaliel. He that had been St. Paul's master, according to St. Chrysostom, advised them to forbear, and do nothing rashly. [Ver. 38.] Meddle not with these men; literally, go from them.[6] For, saith he, if this be the work of men only, it will soon fall to nothing; but if it be from God, you cannot hinder it, and you will only make yourselves guilty, by resisting the designs of God.
They consented to him, so far as not to put them to death; but they made them be scourged, which they rejoiced at; and they dismissed them with reiterated threats. (Witham) --- Gamaliel was the master of St. Paul, Barnabas, Stephen, and others, and favoured the Christians. St. Clement and Ven. Bede think he was then a Christian, but concealed his conversion at the instigation of the apostles, that he might have an opportunity of defending Christ in the council.
He afterwards professed his faith publicly, and was canonized with is son Abibas. See Baronius, 3d of Aug. (Tirinus)
Ver. 39. Time, and the evident success of Christ's Church, prove it to be of God. No violence of the Jews, no persecution of heathen princes, no attempts of domestic adversaries, heretics, schismatics, or evil livers, have been able to prevail against it.
Men of superior abilities have made violent attacks against it; their memory, and that of their disciples, has either been buried and forgotten, or liveth only in malediction and infamy.
Let, then, no Catholic be dispirited, because modern heresies continue; Arian and other heresies have continued much longer, have been more powerfully supported by temporal power, and yet have come to nothing. The Catholic religion was the first, and it will be the last religion.! Ver. 41. Rejoicing. The joy of the apostles on the present occasion, is one of the greatest of miracles. Only the yoke of Jesus could make this sweet.
But so the faithful servants of God have always found it. In tribulation, they abounded in inward peace and joy, which made them insensible of their exterior sufferings. (Haydock)
Praise Be To Jesus!!
AMENNNN !!!!!
In the procession out of the cathedral and through the public square, you can see the faces of the newly ordained. And there is Fr. Ratzinger, looking incredibly young and very serious.
Thanks for the relevant Acts excerpts!! This is all so pertinent with Pentecost approaching. Pentecost is my favorite Feast!! Well - I always think that for every feast as it approaches. Hehe!
Amen!!!!
Amen!! Praise Jesus!!!
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