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To: BipolarBob
"You have a manmade church with manmade traditions."

Not so. Please refer to Matthew 16. When Jesus established His Church He first established His desired method of Church governance and then He identified His first Pope.

Jesus created a visible Church, a Catholic, Holy, and Apostolic Church. An Ekklesia is a convocation, not a loose invisible assembly.

Jesus introduced three forms of Church governance and specifically rejected two of them. He first considered the democratic (Sola Scriptura) method when He asked; "Who do the people say that I am?". He received several different answers, John the Baptist, Elijah, still others Jeremiah or one of the prophets." None of them right.

He then introduced and rejected an oligarchical form similar to the Pharisees or Sanhedrin when He asked His Apostles collectively; "Who do you say that I am?" They did not answer.

He then revealed His desired method, a theocracy under one chosen man as God had done since He chose Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Joseph, Moses, David, and Solomon when Peter stepped forward, without consulting the other and said; "You are the Messiah, the Son of the living God."

"Jesus said to him in reply, "Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah. For flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but my heavenly Father."

And so I say to you, you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of the hell shall not prevail against it."

"I will give you the keys to the kingdom of heaven. Whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven; and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven."

42 posted on 04/29/2012 2:14:15 PM PDT by Natural Law (The Pearly Gates are really a servants entrance.)
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To: Natural Law
"And so I say to you, you are Peter, Cephas or little stone

and upon this Rock I will build my church, and the gates of the hell shall not prevail against it." The contrast is between Peter (the little stone) and Jesus The Rock of Ages. Also note the gates of hell prevailed against Peter when he denied His Savior, not once, not twice but three times. Let's go farther in the chapter to v.23 "Get thee behind me Satan; thou art an offense unto me, for thou savorest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men". The empowerment of Peter (and the other eleven)will come in Heaven when the binding and loosening takes place.

44 posted on 04/29/2012 3:07:09 PM PDT by BipolarBob ("Oh no, I'm not sick, well I'm not physically sick anyway. Mentally I'm sick beyond any doctor's abi)
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