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What are they thinking? (The Easter and Christmas only Church-goers, that is!)
Archdiocese of Washington ^ | April 0, 2012 | Susan Timoney

Posted on 04/10/2012 10:09:53 AM PDT by Salvation

On Easter Sunday I had the privilege of serving as an Extraordinary Minister of Holy Communion at the 9:00 am Mass.  By the time Mass began it was standing room only in the church. This was not a surprise. I bet it was the same at your parish. When it came time to distribute Communion, another person and I were asked to go to a station at the rear of the church. A line formed among those standing. At a certain point, I wondered why the line did not seem to get shorter and I realized that people were coming through the doors of the church and getting in line for Communion. After Mass, I learned that indeed people were standing three deep on the sidewalk during Mass. Because it was such a beautiful day, the doors were wide open and the music could surely be heard, but how much of the readings and homily and Eucharistic prayer did people hear?

I’ve been wondering what made them stay and what makes our brother and sister Catholics who don’t come to Mass often and maybe only at Christmas and Easter come on these feasts. On the one hand, if recent studies are correct and a majority of Catholics consider themselves as “active” if they go to Mass once a month on average, then making sure you plan to go on Christmas and Easter is a no-brainer. But for those who come infrequently, why stand on the sidewalk? Reverend Andrew Greeley, SJ, a sociologist talks about the “sacramental imagination” that is nurtured in the Catholic mind and that like Baptism seems to leave and indelible mark and so even for the Catholic who is not practicing the faith, his world view is a Catholic worldview.  Another priest pondered that maybe if a person calls themselves Christian, then at the very least they see a need to come to church on Easter to “represent” so to speak!

Always welcomed

Don’t get me wrong, I love that the congregation overflowed onto the sidewalk on Capitol Hill. What a witness to the truth that the Easter story has real meaning and continues to capture people’s imagination. When I ask “what are they thinking,” I really want to know, because if we who are serious about the New Evangelization can better understand what the pull is to come to church once or twice a year than we can use that as a starting point for helping them look more deeply at their own experience. We can better able in our preaching and teaching and conversation make a more convincing argument for how active participation in life of the church will make a real difference in every part of one’s life. Fr. Bill Byrne, the pastor, in his homily said that the story of the Resurrection does not just have meaning for a moment but rather calls for a commitment. If you believe the story, you need to make a commitment—to discipleship, to Mass, to service. How did people hear that? Are they still thinking about it today?

He knows as all of us know that it won’t be standing room only next week. When we better understand the impulse to come to church once, twice, a few times a year, we can better help our brother and sisters move from impulse to commitment. Any insights you can share with me?



TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Current Events; Theology
KEYWORDS: catholic; christmas; easter
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To: johngrace

I read it probably 30+ years ago and just picked it up again and reread it last week.

What a difference in understanding several years of walking with Christ made in my understanding of the book.

If it’s been long since you read it, it is definitely worth rereading it again. I always find it amazing how much I forget about a book that’s been sitting on the shelf for years.


101 posted on 04/10/2012 3:10:28 PM PDT by metmom ( For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: Salvation

....LOL!!!


102 posted on 04/10/2012 3:14:58 PM PDT by moehoward
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To: metmom
Yes! If I remember He lived for a while wrote his books was a great witness. I read I think 3 or 4 of his books. He was martyred by Mao if I remember right. Praise Jesus for his witness!

I have many books in storage in NY. I need to bring down.

103 posted on 04/10/2012 3:22:57 PM PDT by johngrace (I am a 1 John 4! Christian- declared at every Sunday Mass , Divine Mercy and Rosary prayers!)
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To: metmom

I am having the worst allergy winter and spring in a long while. I am on low carb diet. This has helped. No gluten mostly. Georgia weather.


104 posted on 04/10/2012 3:29:16 PM PDT by johngrace (I am a 1 John 4! Christian- declared at every Sunday Mass , Divine Mercy and Rosary prayers!)
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To: Natural Law
"Every Catholic knows that if you get to Mass late all of the good seats in the back will already be taken. ;o)

Now that's funny, I don't care who ya are...

105 posted on 04/10/2012 4:15:06 PM PDT by Iscool (You mess with me, you mess with the WHOLE trailerpark...)
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To: johngrace
I am not talking catholic. I already comment on another thread with you. So Do you confess to Christ for individual sins. Yes or no.

Isn't that clear in my post you referenced???

106 posted on 04/10/2012 4:23:42 PM PDT by Iscool (You mess with me, you mess with the WHOLE trailerpark...)
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To: Iscool

All due respect. No. You are obtuse.


107 posted on 04/10/2012 4:38:29 PM PDT by johngrace (I am a 1 John 4! Christian- declared at every Sunday Mass , Divine Mercy and Rosary prayers!)
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To: johngrace

I understand the SE is the worst place in the country for allergy sufferers to live. At any time. Seasonal allergies are typically the worst there.


108 posted on 04/10/2012 5:09:22 PM PDT by metmom ( For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: metmom

Now you tell me!! LOL! My body is learning though as the doctor put it. It’s not as bad as the beginning of this condition. Much better than the beginning. Just a crazy season.


109 posted on 04/10/2012 5:27:58 PM PDT by johngrace (I am a 1 John 4! Christian- declared at every Sunday Mass , Divine Mercy and Rosary prayers!)
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To: Persevero

We are to be part of the church, or congregation, or assembly, or whatever you may want to term it. That includes being subject, to some degree, to spiritual authorities. The way the authorities get their authority is lined out in Scripture, and their authority is not absolute. Nevertheless it exists.

Jesus set up His church for our blessing, not our curse. Church is not always easy, and God says there are false leaders and so on. But He did set it up and we are to be part of it.


I completely agree with that.


110 posted on 04/10/2012 5:50:33 PM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: Straight Vermonter

—Can you be more specific? —

Not really. It’s just a spirit that manifests itself differently every week. Comments are made about the importance of regular attendance, people are engaged in the sunday school and, to a much lesser degree, the sermon. The pastor is big on reminding everyone of the strength of the body and the importance of us being a unit, helping each other in the Lord.

‘Course, our average attendance is only about 90. And I much prefer the small church to the mega’s (I’ve been to willow Creek and attended a church with 2,500 attendees every sunday. Too big. Even with small groups.


111 posted on 04/10/2012 5:54:27 PM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: johngrace

You didn’t ask.

Anyway, try some local honey. The best is to get it from somewhere of the west of you, as unprocessed as possible.


112 posted on 04/10/2012 6:34:49 PM PDT by metmom ( For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: KittenClaws

Catholics have a chance of redemption. They can receive the Sacrament of Reconciliation, what was once called Penance, whereby they go to a priest and confess their sins.

As far as eating meat on Fridays, at the time the rule was in place, eating meat was a sin and those who disobeyed committed the sin. It would be same as if you were a young teen and your parents told you to be home by 10 PM. You come home at 10:30 instead and you are punished. However, the following week, your parents ease the rule and say you can now stay out until 11. The fact is, this week staying out until 10:30 won’t get you into trouble, but last week it did.

At any time in your life if you are sincerely sorry for your sin(s) then you are forgiven. But one cannot commit a sin with the presupposition that it’s OK to commit the sin today because you will be forgiven tomorrow.


113 posted on 04/10/2012 6:38:39 PM PDT by murron (Proud Mom of a Marine Vet)
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To: Iscool

I see that you are a Catholic basher. I know many Evangelicals who are quick to denounce my Church and get downright insulting about it. I love my Church and if you don’t, then you obviously don’t know enough, if anything, about it. You worship your way, and I’ll worship mine. God Bless you.


114 posted on 04/10/2012 6:43:03 PM PDT by murron (Proud Mom of a Marine Vet)
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To: metmom

I had the local honey. The best I ever tasted. I have to diet.


115 posted on 04/10/2012 7:05:51 PM PDT by johngrace (I am a 1 John 4! Christian- declared at every Sunday Mass , Divine Mercy and Rosary prayers!)
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What are they thinking? (The Easter and Christmas only Church-goers, that is!)

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116 posted on 04/10/2012 7:15:00 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Martin Tell

It’s good to see there is at least one other EO still lurking on the FR. I always take Holy Week off in order to attend all the services. On Pascha its standing room only and I (like you) struggle to not judge all these people who suddenly appear and line up for the eucharist. The challenge is good for the soul.


117 posted on 04/10/2012 11:37:00 PM PDT by arielguard (Fasting without prayer is vainglory.)
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To: johngrace

I think all you need is a teaspoon a day.

Perhaps there’s other stuff to eliminate from your diet for a while. The honey will help. I even had an allergist admit that to me. He said it’s not as good as the shots, but it does work.

It helped mr. mm. He couldn’t do the shots, too bad a local reaction, but when we started with the local honey, he improved a LOT.


118 posted on 04/11/2012 6:29:52 AM PDT by metmom ( For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: arielguard
Thank you, FRiend.

Now Holy Week is really ratcheting up in intensity. Today is Great and Holy Wednesday, with Holy Unction Service tonight. I recall that lasts about three hours. Tomorrow, Great and Holy Thursday, we have the service of the Twelve Gospels - that's about four hours. May God grant us strength.

Christ is in our midst.

119 posted on 04/11/2012 7:11:58 AM PDT by Martin Tell (ask for the ancient paths, ask where the good way is, and walk in it)
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To: Salvation
I used to do that until I became a Christian.
I would only go on Easter and Christmas.

My Church only had the same people that show up every Sunday. Normal 90% of members, couple of families may be sick or Traveling.

My guess as to why?
At that time I thought I was a Christian but I wasn't. I was member of a church that allowed me to be member but never said anything or seem to care if I was there or not.
I guess you could say I thought I was a Christian because I was brought up in a Family that said they were Christians, so I assumed I was. Went to Sunday School and stuff as a kid. I would pretty much do anything I wanted and thought I was OK because I was a Christian.

I sense have learned I was wrong, To be a Christian you have to be like Christ, Let Christ rule your life, etc….

As for the Church
We don't celebrate Easter as many do once a year.
Every Sunday we remember and focus on Jesus sacrifice and resurrection when taking the Lord's Supper. As Jesus said “Do THIS in remembrance of Me” when handing out the bread and fruit of the vine.
Paul restated this to the Church in 1 Cor 11. Other passages showed they did this on the 1st day of the week.
I feel every Sunday is pretty much the same as Many celebrate Easter.
Can't find where God / Jesus / His Apostles every taught anything about celebrating Easter or like once a year so we don't do it. Not Judging others as people putting one day over another really doesn't matter unless it impacts what God does say. Example if you say we only remember Jesus death once a year and don't do it when he asked then it may become a problem. I don't think many do that, like the ones you see at Church all the time.

120 posted on 04/11/2012 7:44:21 AM PDT by NoDRodee (U>S>M>C)
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