[Elsie]

all of which you continually seem to discount.

Why not?

It was served at PASSOVER; wasn't it?

--MormonDude(Besides; wine reminds us of BLOOD and that is ICKY!)

[CommerceComet]

Hey, MormonDude, you are correct in one sense. There was water at the Passover - it was used to wash your hands - not to drink.

The four cups used wine the fruit of the vine including, most importantly, the third cup which represents the cup of redemption.