[Wayne07]

Christianity is better served by not attacking with other decent religions, instead aligning with atheists to attack Mormons. You are aligning yourself with the devil (figuratively).

[Colofornian]

Christianity is better served by not attacking with other decent religions...

You know, Jesus was a Jew...the chosen people of God...a pretty "decent" religion...

And the Pharisees and Teachers of the Law were part & parcel of that pretty "decent religion..."

In fact, Jesus even complimented them (Pharisees)...well...complimented them at least one time...well, at least He specifically complimented their outward behavior.

Here is Jesus giving a great compliment to the outward "assets" of legalistic Pharisees...telling people that unless their righteousness exceeded that of the Pharisees & the teachers of the law, "you will certainly NOT enter the kingdom of heaven." (Matt. 5:20).

So...did Jesus take your advice overall, MrShoop. Did He not "attack" the decent Jewish religion of the Pharisees?

Matthew 23, Jesus said:

25"Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You clean the outside of the cup and dish, but inside they are full of greed and self-indulgence. 26Blind Pharisee! First clean the inside of the cup and dish, and then the outside also will be clean. 27"Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You are like whitewashed tombs, which look beautiful on the outside but on the inside are full of dead men's bones and everything unclean. 28In the same way, on the outside you appear to people as righteous but on the inside you are full of hypocrisy and wickedness.

In fact, that whole 23rd chapter of Matthew is one long dissing of the Pharisees by Jesus.

You are aligning yourself with the devil (figuratively). [MrShoop]

Actually, your Biblical ignorance slip is showing.

In John 8, Jesus call the legalistic Pharisees "children of the devil."

Shall I go on with all of the other confrontations 'tween Jesus & the legalistic Pharisees, MrShoop.

Are you condemning Jesus for "attacking" a "decent religion?" Yes? No?

Are you trying to "outnice" Jesus, MrShoop?

Hey, if you want to be consistent -- just accuse Jesus of being an "attacker" or "basher" of the Pharisees/religious legalists of his day.

Onto the Question, then, of who's been attacking who for 180+ years:

The Lds "scriptures" reference ALL Christian sects...Catholicism, Protestantism, and Orthodox -- as being 100% filled with "corrupt professors" who believe 100% creeds which apparently are an "abomination" to the Mormon god.

It's all in the chart I sent you in post #12...What? You can't read charts, MrShoop?

What you have seemingly failed to consider in whatever (if any) reading of the Bible...is that Jesus comforted the afflicted...and He afflicted the legalistically comfortable.

And I frankly cannot think of a more legalistic religion today than the Mormon religion.

[Colofornian]

...aligning with atheists to attack Mormons

Mormons have aligned with the atheists to attack Christians for over 180 years!

Mormon teaching is that worldwide Christianity went 100% AWOL.

Here's a basic primer for you: That's called an "attack"...in fact, it's what I call "scorched earth religio-politics." Joseph Smith dug one HUGE figurative graveyard -- and attempted to stick worldwide Christianity in it.

It's foundational Mormon doctrine to believe in a "universal apostasy" -- and then for Mormons to see themselves as the 100% restoration.

So who started that attack? (Mormons)

Who continues that fight? That slander? (Mormons)

Again...address the facts...instead of resorting to your emotion-laden name-calling.

Snapshot of Joseph Smith’s Slanderous Invectives vs. Christian Sects	Mormon Source [Note: Most of these are Mormon ‘scriptures'. In fact, First three rows below are Lds 'scripture' & therefore cannot be rug-swept any more than a Jew might try to take three commandments off of the very tablets of stone Moses brought down from the mountain]
“...which of all the sects was right… must join NONE of them, for they were ALL WRONG… those professors were ALL CORRUPT…”	Joseph Smith – History vv. 18-19. – Lds "scripture" Pearl of Great Price
...“which of all the sects was right…ALL their CREEDS were an ABOMINATION in his sight…they teach for doctrines the commandments of MEN…”	Joseph Smith – History vv. 18-19. – Lds "scripture" Pearl of Great Price
Mormon church the only ‘Christ-sanctioned’ church on earth: “…the foundation of this [Mormon] church…the ONLY true and living church on the face of the whole earth” [Obvious ‘scorched earth’ implication: All other churches are false and dead]	Lds “scripture” Doctrines & Covenants 1:30
Direct question asked of Joseph Smith: 'Will everybody be damned, but Mormons?" Answer from Lds "prophet" Joseph Smith: 'Yes, and a great portion of them, unless they repent, and work righteousness."	Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 119 [Not “scripture” – but still publicly spoken by the Mormon ‘living prophet’ and published by a later Mormon ‘living prophet,’ Joseph Fielding Smith – via a publisher owned by the Mormon church – Deseret News Press, 1938]
“In 1952…the first official proselyting plan was sent to missionaries throughout the world…It included seven missionary discussions that emphasized…[four topics, one of them being]…THE APOSTASY and Restoration…” [This makes it almost 60 years that Mormon church missionaries, now numbering 52,000, have formally emphasized in its training & door to door saturation a priority in bashing the worldwide Christian church as “apostates” (100% AWOL)]	Our Heritage: A Brief History of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints p. 116, 1996

[annieokie]

Oh MY!!! It is the duty of all Christians to enlighten and point the way to Truth. If that offends anyone, so be it, we have no choice but to continue to tell the TRUTH of the "I AM".

If in speaking the truth and some choose to turn their backs on it, not our problem any longer. They have been told TRUTH and its their choice to reject it.

You see someone attempting to commit suicide by jumping from a bridge. What do you do? Sit back and watch their death, or try to change their minds? Same thing with the soul, cults are poison to the soul and spiritual suicide.

[svcw]

And what would those decent religions be?

Certainly you do not mean mormonism, who mocks God Almighty by its own words.

[Elsie]

Christianity is better served by not attacking with other decent religions, instead aligning with atheists to attack Mormons.

I'm sure that MY definition of DECENT is a bit different than yours.

[Elsie]

The Pharisees seemed to be mighty 'decent'.

They kept the LAW.

They do all kinds of good things... 

 

 

Matthew 23

1. Then Jesus said to the crowds and to his disciples:
2. "The teachers of the law and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat.
3. So you must obey them and do everything they tell you. But do not do what they do, for they do not practice what they preach.
4. They tie up heavy loads and put them on men's shoulders, but they themselves are not willing to lift a finger to move them.
5. "Everything they do is done for men to see: They make their phylacteries wide and the tassels on their garments long;
6. they love the place of honor at banquets and the most important seats in the synagogues;
7. they love to be greeted in the marketplaces and to have men call them `Rabbi.'
8. "But you are not to be called `Rabbi,' for you have only one Master and you are all brothers.
9. And do not call anyone on earth `father,' for you have one Father, and he is in heaven.
10. Nor are you to be called `teacher,' for you have one Teacher, the Christ.
11. The greatest among you will be your servant.
12. For whoever exalts himself will be humbled, and whoever humbles himself will be exalted.
13. "Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You shut the kingdom of heaven in men's faces. You yourselves do not enter, nor will you let those enter who are trying to.
14. Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye devour widows' houses, and for a pretence make long prayer: therefore ye shall receive the greater damnation.
15. "Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You travel over land and sea to win a single convert, and when he becomes one, you make him twice as much a son of hell as you are.
16. "Woe to you, blind guides! You say, `If anyone swears by the temple, it means nothing; but if anyone swears by the gold of the temple, he is bound by his oath.'
17. You blind fools! Which is greater: the gold, or the temple that makes the gold sacred?
18. You also say, `If anyone swears by the altar, it means nothing; but if anyone swears by the gift on it, he is bound by his oath.'
19. You blind men! Which is greater: the gift, or the altar that makes the gift sacred?
20. Therefore, he who swears by the altar swears by it and by everything on it.
21. And he who swears by the temple swears by it and by the one who dwells in it.
22. And he who swears by heaven swears by God's throne and by the one who sits on it.
23. "Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You give a tenth of your spices--mint, dill and cummin. But you have neglected the more important matters of the law--justice, mercy and faithfulness. You should have practiced the latter, without neglecting the former.
24. You blind guides! You strain out a gnat but swallow a camel.
25. "Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You clean the outside of the cup and dish, but inside they are full of greed and self-indulgence.
26. Blind Pharisee! First clean the inside of the cup and dish, and then the outside also will be clean.
27. "Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You are like whitewashed tombs, which look beautiful on the outside but on the inside are full of dead men's bones and everything unclean.
28. In the same way, on the outside you appear to people as righteous but on the inside you are full of hypocrisy and wickedness.
29. "Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You build tombs for the prophets and decorate the graves of the righteous.
30. And you say, `If we had lived in the days of our forefathers, we would not have taken part with them in shedding the blood of the prophets.'
31. So you testify against yourselves that you are the descendants of those who murdered the prophets.
32. Fill up, then, the measure of the sin of your forefathers!
33. "You snakes! You brood of vipers! How will you escape being condemned to hell?
34. Therefore I am sending you prophets and wise men and teachers. Some of them you will kill and crucify; others you will flog in your synagogues and pursue from town to town.
35. And so upon you will come all the righteous blood that has been shed on earth, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah son of Berekiah, whom you murdered between the temple and the altar.
36. I tell you the truth, all this will come upon this generation.
37. "O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, you who kill the prophets and stone those sent to you, how often I have longed to gather your children together, as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, but you were not willing.
38. Look, your house is left to you desolate.
39. For I tell you, you will not see me again until you say, `Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord.' "