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To: smvoice
NONE of which, in ANY of these gospels are compatible with the gospel of the grace of God. Ephesians 2:8,9 and 1 Corinthians 15:1-4.

So, just what is it that the Church is to teach all men?


There is, though, none more legalistic than Calvin and his version of the medieval doctrine of imputed righteousness. It's possible that what appears to be so discordant to you in the Gospels with other portions of scripture is that way because of a fundamental flaw in understanding.
102 posted on 03/19/2012 5:22:16 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: aruanan
"There is, though, none more legalistic than Calvin and his version of the medieval doctrine of imputed righteousness. It's possible that what appears to be so discordant to you in the Gospels with other portions of scripture is that way because of a fundamental flaw in understanding."

“The other thing is this: that I find by experience there is a very large measure of agreement among Christian denominations on all doctrine that is really oecumenical. A rigidly Catholic interpretation of the Creeds, for example—including the Athanasian Creed—will find support both in Rome and in Geneva. Objections will come chiefly from the heathen, and from a noisy but not very representative bunch of heretical parsons who once in their youth read Robertson or Cony-beare and have never got over it.” - Dorothy L. Sayers; Creed or Chaos

103 posted on 03/19/2012 5:35:53 PM PDT by Natural Law (If you love the Catholic Church raise your hands, if not raise your standards.)
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Then by all means explain the fundamental flaw in understanding. I understand that when Christ commanded the twelve to "go NOT into the way of the Gentiles" (Mat. 10:5), He meant do NOT go to the Gentiles. ANd when, in Mat. 15:24 He said "But he answered and said, I am NOT SENT BUT UNTO THE LOST SHEEP OF THE HOUSE OF ISRAEL", He meant it.

The "fundamental flaw in understanding" is NOT reading God's Word as it is written, but trying to change it into something we WANT it to say. It says what it says. And there is no way to mis-understand something that is CLEARLY stated.

If you have a different understanding that you believe is not flawed, please let me know. I would love to hear your explanation of just these two verses to begin with.

104 posted on 03/19/2012 5:38:17 PM PDT by smvoice (Better Buck up, Buttercup. The wailing and gnashing are for an eternity..)
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