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To: hinckley buzzard

Mormonism is definitely a cult. I have mixed feelings about Catholicism. I used to see them as another church, but then I found out (through some Catholic posters here and confirmed by other sources) that the church teaches that mary was without sin and that she NEVER had sex, even after Jesus’ birth.

So the jury is still out with me, but that is very troubling.


37 posted on 03/15/2012 1:09:14 PM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: cuban leaf
"church teaches that mary was without sin and that she NEVER had sex, even after Jesus’ birth."

Is it really that unbelievable that God wanted his Son to be born of a person without sin and that people can go through life without having sex? More miraculous things have happened.

39 posted on 03/15/2012 1:19:03 PM PDT by ex-snook ("above all things, truth beareth away the victory")
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To: cuban leaf

I mostly agree with you. Mormonism is a cult, period.

Catholicism can be a cult. A cult is primarily defined by who is the prime leader or gateway to heaven/eternal life. Christianity is a cult of Jesus Christ whereby people see Jesus and His Holy Spirit as our Leader. Some Catholics see their priests or Pope as the gateway and that makes it a cult. To be fair, there are other denominations which put their church pastor or leader in the same or similar light as the Pope and that makes them a cult also.

Some other aspects of cults is extra-biblical doctrine/writings which are looked at as equal to or above the Bible. They also apply shunning to those who leave the church. Catholics and Mormons both fill those categories as well. Catholics, though aren’t universal in those aspects, but they do exist in many churches and parishes.

In the end, I know that there are some Catholics who are saved, but not because of strictly following their churches doctrine, but in fact because they ignore most of their churches doctrine. I can’t say the same is true with Mormons, because they have created a whole different thing. Catholicism at least has the basic truths in it’s cobweb of extra-Biblical practices and doctrines.


51 posted on 03/15/2012 2:41:40 PM PDT by ScubieNuc (When there is no justice in the laws, justice is left to the outlaws.)
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To: cuban leaf

And just, for a minute, just what?? if that is true.

There was no word to aptly describe “cousins”, so those realatives were called brothers and sisters.

Mary had no other children.

Aren’t you familiar with the Ark of Old Covenant and how the person who touched it died instantly?

Well, Mary is the Ark (in her womb) of the New Covenant — Jesus Christ. I believe that anyone who would have tried to touch her in the way you are thinking (sexually) would have died instantly.

Read about St. Joseph and how he and the Blessed Virgin Mary lived celibate lives.


58 posted on 03/15/2012 3:57:22 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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