Posted on 03/15/2012 11:29:19 AM PDT by NYer
Follow above link to view responses to Msgr. Pope’s question.
Duh...
Evangelicals, Catholics, and Mormons consider Chrissie Matthews to be an 0bama0 cultist.
Mathews is a shrieking liar. He’s even excused JFK raping a nineteen year old intern on Mrs. Kennedy’s bed...anything for the Democrat team.
Right on the Mormons, wrong on the Catholics. It comes down to basic theology and control.
It also comes down to the demands of the group. The sociological definition of ‘cult’ is ‘high demand group’. Mormons shun those who leave, control how members dress, speak, eat, time spent in mettings etc. Evangelicals and Catholics do not.
Theologically, Catholics and Evangelicals, while having differences in theology certainly, DO AGREE on the ‘basics’ the person work and nature of Jesus Christ and the nature of God. They both agree with the historical church creeds.
Momons, OTOH, teach and believe contrary both to historical creeds and the person work and nature of Christ.
Therefore, again, Mormons are rightly called a ‘cult’. Catholics are not.
Methinks Mr. Matthews is neuronically challenged.
Hey Monsigmori...stop skirting the issue and deal with this
A Hydra Is In The Mourning After Pill
OBMACARE is a Hydra a 9 headed snake
which Can only be Destroyed By A Firebrand
by L.J .Keslin http://www.theusmat.com
Of the three GOP candidates remaining opposing Mitt Romney for the presidency Newt Gingrich , Ron Paul, and Rick Santorum. Only one has had the courage to take on a what they call a third rail issue...Eugenics... and has had his character asassinated for it... He’s been characterized as a women hater ,, a religious nut, a one trick pony, .... pummeled from both sides and that is Rick Santorum ,,,,What’s really in Obamacare and
What is Eugenics....? It’s control.... and all that goes with it. Two groups late in the last century led in Eugenic development. The Nazis and the Communists. Few know or remember how the Nazis began. First citing “health risk” “nicht rauchen” baning cigarette smoking, Then terminating Down Syndrome children, and then on to mentally defective children and adults,. then on to besides murdering opponents, races. All done to make the German Reich healthy and last a thousand years.
Eugenics explained in common words is this. And it ain’t just b/c pills, condoms, and womens rights. It’s government policy. :You surrender your individuality to the group to advance the greater good of the group. If your unhealthy or too old and you can’t work for the greater good of the group any more, you are disposed of in the way the group decides. If there are too many people , the group decides no more babiys, kill them. Now lets take the word”group” and change it for the word “ state”. Women surrender their rights when they buy into this monstrosity . That is what’s in Obamacare which is deceptively titled “The Affordable Health Care Act”
.So you go to the MSM (Main Stream Media) the so called “gate keepers” for information about these things and you find closed gates . Either it’s not mentioned at all , or downplayed, and given Obamacom talking point excuses for their reason. An example of this is how the sorcerers in the media were allowed to conjure Eugenics which is an integral part of Obama/Romneycare known as the Affordable Health Care Act magically reduce a 2000 page Hydra , a Greek legendary nine headed venomous snake that must be slain by a firebrand ,and morph it into the mourning after pill and a “womans health care issue.” .
The “gatekeepers” never called it out for what it is ..Obama and his Demo-com HHS department Secretary Selbelius who is a CINO (Catholic In Name Only and should be excommunicated period) .Yet Obamacom tzars who hail from that foreign land, the deep swamp of Acadamica are all preaching the utopian wonders of Eugenics. Why it’s the final solution (remember him ?) population control. Which is part of the Obamacare package.
Obamacare drafters who are exempt from being on Obamacare are on record and actually called it population control and demanded Catholic bishops support it.* Their statements are out there .But not mentioned by the so called gate-keepers but by the AM the alternate media, meaning radio talk shows like Limbaugh’s and websites like Britebart’s Government . Places Obama wants to shut down and will once re-elected *Joel Pollak Britebart Government .
Another issue is its constitutionality imposing a current government position on religious groups. And BTW (by the way) one group has been excluded in the “Affordable Health Care Act” for religious reasons ...the Amish....Again silence from MSM .Demanding changes of acceptance in what was traditional core cultural values held by religious groups and advancing eugenics meaning infantacide and condeming seniors to soylent green centers certainly does have a place in the political discussion.
Once upon a time there were Democrat voices who would warn when pitfalls of bad legislation appeared. Saddly there are no longer any independent voices in todays Democrat Party. Liberal watch dogs like Proxmire or Moynihan are gone . A liberal would be screaming about the benefits from private job creation projects like an iron mine in Wisconsin for a desperate area in need of jobs or the Keystone pipeline transfering oil from Canada to American refineries and support them.
A socialist or communist because of a political agenda,would reject them and they have. In each case the US Senate, and the Wisconsin state (hate the governor) senate dominated by agenda driven democrats killed both projects .They’re not just Democrats but hyphenated Demo-Coms placing their political agenda above the common good.
The Keystone pipeline and iron mine decisions which would have provided employment to thousands and reduced gas prices. Their rejection by the demo-coms should send a signal to the Republican bleeding heart establishment . “Bi-partisanship” doesn’t exist with socialists and to its leading presidential candidate Mitt Romney. Mr Romney should start realizing Obama is a “socialist”.. Everyone including the monthly liberal magazine Newsweek knows he is but Mr Romney just can’t seem to get around to saying it .
Where the Santorum campaign failed was to allow the media to describe the issue and reduce it into popping a pill. Furthurmore in Ohios case you had some local major market so called conservative talk show hosts ridiculing Santorum on this issue not just the drummers (as in venomous snake oil hustlers) on MSM.
Whether Santorum decides to shy away from this issue or re-frame it is up to him and his advisors. But he should be encouraged to re-adjust the focus. One way the Catholic bishops can help is use the mechanisms they have to do so...After all they have shut down parishes which retained the latin mass but can not speakout and act on this despicable movement ? Particularly when that is being shoved on religious groups by the Demo-Coms . Especially when they are ignoring constitutional rights....
The phrase “Hell hath no fury” comes to mind.
As an evangelical Christian I can honestly say I don’t care what Crissy has to say.
He’s an evil person who is hurting America, Christians of all flavors, and of course Jewish people.
There is certainly a significant proportion of evangelical Protestants who do not regard Catholics as Christian.
In the ‘push comes to shove’ department, I’d say yes on Mormons and no, at least on my evangelical part, on our brothere and sistes in Christ, the Catholics.
I regard Chrissy Matthews as a faggedy little Obamaphile cultist.
Here is what I posted at the site.......
I was also raised as a Baptist in the South in the 60s and 70s. I would say that, as there were pretty much no Mormons and darn few Catholics in the area, we almost never thought about them at all. I was taught that they had different beliefs from ourselves, as did every other Protestant denomination. Though some of the things I believed at the time about Mormons and Catholics were incorrect (for instance Papal infalliblity) the same can be said about my beliefs of other denominations as well. And for that matter, I don’t know all there is to know about Baptists......
The first real experience I had with anti-Catholicism came when I moved to New York. I can say the same for antiSemitism. My first experience of anti-Mormon feelings came when I moved to California.
In a doctors office, I saw a magazine for diabetics with an article re: Matthews and diabetes.
Didn't have time to read article or stash magazine in my tote bag as I was just then being called into the dr. office.
I've heard Levin, the Great One, refer to Matthews as somewhat of a drinker. Maybe he was joking. Maybe he wasn't.
I have a relative with diabetes. If he doesn't keep sugar level on key, he says and does weird things. If he drinks, his behaviour is frighting and he could die.
If Matthews is a diabetic, that could explain some of his rants.
Think I'll drop by dr. office and see if I can find the mag.
Not they are not all Israel who are of Israel. This is true for all people of Israel, those graphed in or not.
The only issue that decides this question, is do you truely have Him, His presence in your heart? I’ve known/meet peoples from every denomination who don’t and I’ve meet Evangelicals, Mormons and Catholics who do.
He _is_ the _only_ one who knows; He decides, cause he experiences it too; it is a partnership. He measures a man/woman by their heart. A right heart produces fruit and good works without a right heart are a clanging gong.
They are not all Israel who are of Israel. This is true for all people of Israel, those graphed in or not.
The only issue that decides this question, is do you truely have Him, His presence in your heart? I’ve known/meet peoples from every denomination who don’t and I’ve meet Evangelicals, Mormons and Catholics who do.
He _is_ the _only_ one who knows; He decides, cause he experiences it too; it is a partnership. He measures a man/woman by their heart. A right heart produces fruit and good works without a right heart are a clanging gong.
most appropriate and diplomatic response in memory.
The only issue that decides this question, is do you truely have Him, His presence in your heart?
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Interesting you list Mormons you know that do, since this is NOT Mormon belief or teaching. They may say something similar or dance around it, but they openly reject a personal relationship with Jesus Christ.
Mormon Apostle gave a talk at BYU on this very subject:http://speeches.byu.edu/reader/reader.php?id=6843
Also, can you have Jesus in your heart when you believe in a false Jesus, one that is not eternal, not always God, elder brother of Satan, etc.
So, while I do believe Catholics can, Mormons cannot. If they did then they would leave Mormonism in a shot. I’ve seen it over and over again. If you have a relationship with Christ, you cannot stay in Mormonism very long at all, much less believe any of it.
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