Funny how everyone virtually ignores this verse.
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I see ignoring that verse on this thread
Please point out on the thread ANYWHERE y'all have
noted,
much more so PRAISED GOD FOR PAUL'S ANNOINTED EXHORTATION:
1 Corinthians 14:5 I would like every one of you to speak in tongues,
It's difficult for me to think of a greater job of ignoring and denial of a Biblical truth and exhortation in all my 10+ years on FR.
That dog won't hunt.
Finish quoting the verse to display any integrity.
Here it is....
1 Corinthians 14:5 I would like every one of you to speak in tongues, but I would rather have you prophesy. The one who prophesies is greater than the one who speaks in tongues, unless someone interprets, so that the church may be edified.
Paul saying he wishes that everyone could speak in tongues ≠ God commanding it and saying that it's a sign of the baptism of the Holy Spirit.
Funny how everyone virtually ignores this verse
Everyone but......no pride there./s
I would like every one of you to speak in tongues, but I would rather have you prophesy.
They don't cancel out each other nor does it say NOT to speak in tongues, if fact, it says the opposite. Nor does it say you MUST speak in tongues.
The one who prophesies is greater than the one who speaks in tongues, unless someone interprets, so that the church may be edified.
Exactly. You need an interpreter so the church can understand what was spoken in tongues and, therefore, be edified. So having someone speaking in tongues WITH an interpreter in a church setting and someone speaking prophesy to the church are the same - they both edify the church.
IMO, those with the gift of prophesy is better (as Paul states) for the church as they can do it SOLO.
I realize that some people skip over the posts they don't want to read or those of a particular poster they may be irked at, but, good grief!, that verse has been mentioned many times here! Just go look for yourself, AND, Metmom did not omit it in this post! But, please, it sure would be great if you could actually READ the verse in its entirety and not just the part you may prefer.
From Barnes' Note on the Bible:
I would that ye all spake with tongues - "It is an important endowment, and is not, in its place, to be undervalued. It maybe of great service in the cause of truth, and if properly regulated, and not abused, I would rejoice if these extraordinary endowments were conferred on all. I have no envy against anyone who possesses it; no opposition to the endowment; but I wish that it should not be overvalued; and would wish to exalt into proper estimation the more useful but humble gift of speaking for the edification of the church."
Greater is he that prophesieth - This gift is of more value, and he really occupies a more elevated rank in the church. He is more "useful." The idea here is, that talents are not to he estimated by their "brilliancy," but by their "usefulness." The power of speaking in an unknown tongue was certainly a more striking endowment than that of speaking so as simply to be "useful," and yet the apostle tells us that the latter is the more valuable. So it is always. A man who is useful, however humble and unknown he may be, really occupies a more elevated and venerable rank than the man of most splendid talents and dazzling eloquence, who accomplishes nothing in saving the souls of people.
And Gill's is pretty good, too:
I would that ye all spake with tongues,.... This the apostle says, to prevent being misunderstood; for his view was not to bring the gift of tongues into contempt, or to represent it as at all times, and on all occasions, useless and insignificant; nor would he be thought to envy them this gift, or beat them off of desiring it; for, for his own part, he could wish they all had it, was it the will of God; though he must needs say, that prophesying was most desirable by him, as being most profitable;
but rather that ye prophesied; he wished them all prophets, as Moses did all the Lord's people; he was not against their speaking with tongues, but this was the most eligible, for which he gives this reason: for greater is he that prophesieth, than he that speaketh with tongues; that is, he is more useful and profitable to men, and so consequently more honourable, in higher esteem, and more valued, and in greater dignity, being in a more serviceable post and office, and which is more beneficial and advantageous to mankind: except he interpret; what he said; and then he might stand upon an equal foot, and be equally useful with him that prophesieth; but this everyone could not do that spake with tongues; for speaking with tongues, and the interpretation of tongues, were two distinct gifts; see 1 Corinthians 12:10 and though a man that had the gift of tongues might understand what he himself said to his own edification, yet not be able to interpret it to the understanding and edification of others; and if he could not do this, his speaking was to no purpose: hence the apostle advises such an one to pray that he might interpret, have the gift of interpretation also, in 1 Corinthians 14:13.
That the church may receive edifying: which otherwise cannot be thought it should, or be expected, and then an opportunity and ordinance would be wholly lost.