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To: xkaydet65
The author makes good points, but this will be about money. When local govts are faced with the cost of replacing Catholic services the call for Obama’s retreat will be overwhelming.

I'm not at all sure that is true, any longer. The Cloward-Piven Strategy involves increasing state welfare until the system is bankrupted. Then the Communists step in and pick up the pieces.

Closing down schools and hospitals used to be a credible threat. I don't think it is any longer. I think the Catholic Church has to keep these institutions open, and simply refuse to obey these illegal, unconstitutional orders. That may, unfortunately, involve things like self-insurance, since it looks as if Obama will either destroy the insurance companies or corrupt them to the point where no decent person can use them any longer.

We have reached the point of open warfare, and we need to start hitting back at the politicians.

Should the Church lose its tax-exempt status, then it should point out that every four years a Democrat candidate for POTUS has stood in the pulpit of a black church on election day and demanded that people for for him, while the congregation sings halelullia Jimmy Carter did it. LBJ did it. Bill Clinton did it. And Barack Obama will predictably do it. Then there will be buses in the parking lots to take all the congregations to the polls. Catholic churches should point this out, and start doing the same. And so should the conservative Evangelical churches do it, when the time comes. Which seems to be now.

10 posted on 03/03/2012 12:18:57 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Cicero; xkaydet65
I think the Catholic Church has to keep these institutions open, and simply refuse to obey these illegal, unconstitutional orders.

They will be faced with fines, as Cardinal George points out. For example, a charitable organization with 100 employees will have to pay the federal government $140,000 per year for the “privilege” of not underwriting medical services it believes are immoral.

That may, unfortunately, involve things like self-insurance, since it looks as if Obama will either destroy the insurance companies or corrupt them to the point where no decent person can use them any longer.

Many catholic groups are already self-insured and would be required to either implement the mandate or be fined.

11 posted on 03/03/2012 12:30:28 PM PST by NYer ("Be kind to every person you meet. For every person is fighting a great battle." St. Ephraim)
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To: Cicero; NYer

I think it is time for the Church to remember and emulate The White Rose. What better model for a people fighting tyranny could there be?


12 posted on 03/03/2012 12:54:58 PM PST by xkaydet65
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The HHS Mandate: Cardinal George and the Bishops Are Fighting the Last War (Excellent Analysis)

Excellent points in #10.

13 posted on 03/03/2012 1:22:01 PM PST by melancholy (Professor Alinsky, Enslavement Specialist, Ph.D in L0w and H0lder)
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To: Cicero

Actually, the time was ~3-1/2 years ago. At minimum.


16 posted on 03/03/2012 2:42:09 PM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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