Posted on 02/27/2012 7:17:40 AM PST by Graybeard58
Tak skal du hav!
what is your connection to Denmark?
Taler du Dansk?
None at all. I was reading another source about Lucy Mack Smith's book and it linked to the source of this article.
This one is supposed to be the unsanitized version, that Brigham Young refused to be allowed to be published. He later heavily edited and then published this "History Of J. Smith"
This version, though I haven't read it all yet, is supposed to have a lot of criticism in it about Young and his minions.
I never tire of reading that one.
my understanding is that it's more complicated. unfortunately, i just had surgery and am pecking with one hand so i don't have the patience to write much.
young ordered one edition collected and destroyed; i have the desert news cite to young's order when i'm better.
however, all of the versions have undergone editing. here's a diagram prepared by one scholar:
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“Thinking on this, it may be GODs will for this very large AntiChrist cult to finally be exposed, opened up and examined.”
I love this thought! Wouldn’t it be wonderful to rid our world of this?! Or a least for them to have to acknowledge that they a not Christian in anyway shape or form. I headed off a possible convert just last week..Of course they had no idea what was about to hit them!
If you do, let me know, and I’ll whip one up on anoter subject.
(At least it’s NEW to the lurkers we are gaining!)
The wifey just groans every time I tell one of my old jokes to a new waitress.
“You need to get some new material,” she complains.
“Not as long as I get new audiences”, says I!
Luke 15:10 kjv
Likewise, I say unto you, there is joy in the presence of the angels of God over one sinner that repenteth.
The old hands here don't mind, but you will always have an audiance who have never seen it. I don't see how you could improve it.
Romney just got tagged, he's it. rofl. If he is the nominee this issue will blow wide open and he has no where to hide.
And don't think the Dems are beyond using this, they will crucify him. If a person will lie on the small thing how can he be trusted with the NATIONS problems?
Yep, of course the Dems will use it as I think it is fair game..I really do. Let me just say, I’ll be very surprised if they don’t.
Wilder colors?
James 5:
19 Brethren, if any of you do err from the truth, and one convert him;
20 Let him know, that he which converteth the sinner from the error of his way shall save a soul from death, and shall hide a multitude of sins.
I just HAD to look up the last phrase in your tagline!!
Eccl 10:
20 Curse not the king, no not in thy thought; and curse not the rich in thy bedchamber: for a bird of the air shall carry the voice, and that which hath wings shall tell the matter.
14% of the original manuscript was deleted before the first (orson pratt) edition. brigham young ordered that edition destroyed in 1865. copies survived. the first edition portrayed the smith family, including brigham young's rival william smith, as the legitimate leaders of mormonism, which (along with young's spat with orson pratt) is why historians speculate young ordered the book destroyed.
it wasn't published by the lds church again until it was published in installments in 1901-03, by the Improvement Era magazine, although parallel changes were made to the manuscript earlier by Smith and Campbell.
there have been sixteen+ editions of lucy mack which became more polished and added or deleted parts, depending on who was editor. also, bear in mind that lucy mack smith died in 1856, so every edition other than the original manuscript and the orson pratt edition, which was ordered destroyed, was edited after lucy's death. there was no way for preston nibley, for example, to interview her in 1945 and to add to her story. nor was there a way george smith and robert campbell to make 'first person voice' changes in utah after 1865. nor improvement era in 1901, arno press on 1969, proctor in 1996, and so on.
i've found one section from the nibley, ingleton, and proctor and editions to demonstrate how they may differ. i haven't found this section yet in the actual manuscript. from nibley (1945):
About this time a man by the name of Joseph Jackson, who had been in the city several months, being desirous to marry Lovina Smith, Hyrum's oldest daughter, asked her father if he was willing to receive him as a son-in-law. Being answered in the negative, he went and requested Joseph to use his influence in his favor. As Joseph refused to do that,he next applied to Law, who was our secret enemy, for assistance in stealing Lovina from her father, and from this time forth he continued seeking out our enemies, till he succeeded in getting a number to join him in a conspiracy to murder the whole Smith family. They commenced holding secret meetings, one of which was attended by a man named Eaton, who was our friend, and he exposed the plot.
ingleton's edition (2005) adds the following words after "stealing Lovina from her father":
Hiram heard of this and came to me several times for anxiety. He said he was alarmed about her; that he felt worse than he did when he was in prison.
The proctor edition (1996) says:
About this time a man by the name of Joseph Jackson, who had been in the city several months, asked Hiram for his daughter Lovina, for he wished to make a wife of her. Hyrum, not choosing to have his daughter marry a man who did not belong to the Church, refused for this and other reasons. Jackson then asked Joseph to use his influence with Hyrum to get the girl for him. As Joseph refused to do that, he next applied to Law, who was our secret enemy, for assistance in stealing Lovina from her father. Hyrum heard of this and came to me several times for advice. He said he was alarmed about her, that he felt worse than he did when he was in prison. Jackson went from one to another, wherever he could learn that anyone had any feelings against our family, till finally he succeeded in getting a number to join in a conspiracy to murder the whole Smith family. They commenced holding secret meetings, one of which was attended by a man named Eaton, who was our friend, and he exposed the plot.
bear in mind this is supposed to be lucy mack smith's first-person account, yet it changes. you should get an idea how the different editions of lucy mack smith's history differs from editor to editor. the ingleton edition (2005) wasn't on the diagram i posted above; it's an edition called "the unabridged original version." yet apparently it's not a reprint of the original manuscript. it's an edition which includes 'restored language and feeling through verification' to bring the narrative 'in line' with the manuscript. i'm not certain if that is different than just reprinting the manuscript, as lavina fielding anderson did with 'lucy's book.' but when you start talking about restoring feelings, it doesn't sound as if you simply published the old manuscript. i can't find the ingleton edition online.
Party ownership of the print media
made it easy to manipulate public opinion,
and the film and radio carried the process further.
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....... The Ministry of Truth, Winston's place of work, contained, it was said, three thousand rooms above ground level, and corresponding ramifications below. The Ministry of Truth concerned itself with Lies. Party ownership of the print media made it easy to manipulate public opinion, and the film and radio carried the process further. The primary job of the Ministry of Truth was to supply the citizens of Oceania with newspapers, films, textbooks, telescreen programmes, plays, novels - with every conceivable kind of information, instruction, or entertainment, from a statue to a slogan, from a lyric poem to a biological treatise, and from a child's spelling-book to a Newspeak dictionary. Winston worked in the RECORDS DEPARTMENT (a single branch of the Ministry of Truth) editing and writing for The Times. He dictated into a machine called a speakwrite. Winston would receive articles or news-items which for one reason or another it was thought necessary to alter, or, in Newspeak, rectify. If, for example, the Ministry of Plenty forecast a surplus, and in reality the result was grossly less, Winston's job was to change previous versions so the old version would agree with the new one. This process of continuous alteration was applied not only to newspapers, but to books, periodicals, pamphlets, posters, leaflets, films, sound-tracks, cartoons, photographs - to every kind of literature or documentation which might conceivably hold any political or ideological significance. When his day's work started, Winston pulled the speakwrite towards him, blew the dust from its mouthpiece, and put on his spectacles. He dialed 'back numbers' on the telescreen and called for the appropriate issues of The Times, which slid out of the pneumatic tube after only a few minutes' delay. The messages he had received referred to articles or news-items which for one reason or another it was thought necessary to rectify. In the walls of the cubicle there were three orifices. To the right of the speakwrite, a small pneumatic tube for written messages; to the left, a larger one for newspapers; and on the side wall, within easy reach of Winston's arm, a large oblong slit protected by a wire grating. This last was for the disposal of waste paper. Similar slits existed in thousands or tens of thousands throughout the building, not only in every room but at short intervals in every corridor. For some reason they were nicknamed memory holes. When one knew that any document was due for destruction, or even when one saw a scrap of waste paper lying about, it was an automatic action to lift the flap of the nearest memory hole and drop it in, whereupon it would be whirled away on a current of warm air to the enormous furnaces which were hidden somewhere in the recesses of the building. As soon as Winston had dealt with each of the messages, he clipped his speakwritten corrections to the appropriate copy of The Times and pushed them into the pneumatic tube. Then, with a movement which was as nearly as possible unconscious, he crumpled up the original message and any notes that he himself had made, and dropped them into the memory hole to be devoured by the flames. What happened in the unseen labyrinth to which the tubes led, he did not know in detail, but he did know in general terms. As soon as all the corrections which happened to be necessary in any particular number of The Times had been assembled and collated, that number would be reprinted, the original copy destroyed, and the corrected copy placed on the files in its stead. In the cubicle next to him the little woman with sandy hair toiled day in day out, simply at tracking down and deleting from the Press the names of people who had been vaporized and were therefore considered never to have existed. And this hall, with its fifty workers or thereabouts, was only one-sub-section, a single cell, as it were, in the huge complexity of the Records Department. Beyond, above, below, were other swarms of workers engaged in an unimaginable multitude of jobs. There were huge printing-shops and their sub editors, their typography experts, and their elaborately equipped studios for the faking of photographs. There was the tele-programmes section with its engineers, its producers and its teams of actors specially chosen for their skill in imitating voices; clerks whose job was simply to draw up lists of books and periodicals which were due for recall; vast repositories where the corrected documents were stored; and the hidden furnaces where the original copies were destroyed. And somewhere or other, quite anonymous, there were the directing brains who co-ordinated the whole effort and laid down the lines of policy which made it necessary that this fragment of the past should be preserved, that one falsified, and the other rubbed out of existence. |
HMMmm...
I've heard something like this about SLC lately...
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