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History of Joseph Smith
Kristus.dk ^ | 1853 | Lucy Mack Smith

Posted on 02/27/2012 7:17:40 AM PST by Graybeard58

Taken from chapter 13, the entire book is available at the link.

In chapter 13, Lucy Mack Smith, mother of the "prophet" Joseph Smith, is relating visions of her husband, Joseph. father of the "prophet".

I thought it was insightful into the life of Joe Jr. and how his father influenced his life and "visions".

The formatting is mine, the book as printed on line is a little hard to read, with so few paragraph breaks, parts of chapter 13 follow:

About this time my husband's mind became much excited upon the subject of religion; yet he would not subscribe to any particular system of faith, but contended for the ancient order, as established by our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and His Apostles.

One night my husband retired to his bed in a very thoughtful state of mind, contemplating the situation of the Christian religion, or the confusion and discord that were extant. He soon fell into a sleep, and before waking had the following vision, which I shall relate in his own words, just as he told it to me the next morning:

"I seemed to be traveling in an open, barren field, and as I was traveling, I turned my eyes towards the east, the west, the north and the south, but could see nothing save dead, fallen timber. Not a vestige of life, either animal or vegetable, could be seen; besides, to render the scene still more dreary, the most death-like silence prevailed, no sound of anything animate could be heard in all the field.

I was alone in this gloomy desert, with the exception of an attendant spirit, who kept constantly by my side. Of him I inquired the meaning of what I saw, and why I was thus traveling in such a dismal place. He answered thus:

'This field is the world, which now lieth inanimate and dumb, in regard to the true religion, or plan of salvation; but travel on, and by the wayside you will find on a certain log a box, the contents of which, if you eat thereof, will make you wise, and give unto you wisdom and understanding.'

I carefully observed what was told me by my guide, and proceeding a short distance, I came to the box. I immediately took it up, and placed it under my left arm; then with eagerness I raised the lid, and began to taste of its contents; upon which all manner of beasts, horned cattle, and roaring animals, rose up on every side in the most threatening manner possible, tearing the earth, tossing their horns, and bellowing most terrifically all around me, and they finally came so close upon me, that I was compelled to drop the box and fly for my life. Yet, in the midst of all this I was perfectly happy, though I awoke trembling."

From this forward, my husband seemed more confirmed than ever in the opinion that there was no order or class of religionists that knew any more concerning the Kingdom of God than those of the world, or such as made no profession of religion whatever.

In 1811, we moved from Royalton, Vermont, to the town of Lebanon, New Hampshire. Soon after arriving here, my husband received another very singular vision, which I will relate:

"I thought," said he, "I was traveling in an open, desolate field, which appeared to be very barren. As I was thus traveling, the thought suddenly came into my mind that I had better stop and reflect upon what I was doing, before I went any farther. So I asked myself, 'What motive can I have in traveling here, and what place can this be?'

My guide, who was by my side, as before, said, 'This is the desolate world; but travel on.' The road was so broad and barren that I wondered why I should travel in it; for, said I to myself, 'Broad is the road, and wide is the gate that leads to death, and many there be that walk therein; but narrow is the way, and strait is the gate that leads to everlasting life, and few there be that go in thereat.'

Traveling a short distance further, I came to a narrow path. This path I entered, and, when I had traveled a little way in it, I beheld a beautiful stream of water, which ran from the east to the west. Of this stream, I could see neither the source nor yet the mouth; but as far as my eyes could extend I could see a rope, running along the bank of it, about as high as a man could reach, and beyond me was a low, but very pleasant valley, in which stood a tree such as I had never seen before. It was exceedingly handsome, insomuch that I looked upon it with wonder and admiration. Its beautiful branches spread themselves somewhat like an umbrella, and it bore a kind of fruit, in shape much like a chestnut bur, and as white as snow, or, if possible, whiter.

I gazed upon the same with considerable interest, and as I was doing so, the burs or shells commenced opening and shedding their particles, or the fruit which they contained, which was of dazzling whiteness. I drew near and began to eat of it, and I found it delicious beyond description. As I was eating, I said in my heart, 'I cannot eat this alone, I must bring my wife and children, that they may partake with me.'

Accordingly, I went and brought my family, which consisted of a wife and seven children, and we all commenced eating and praising God for this blessing.. We were exceedingly happy, insomuch that our Joy could not easily be expressed.

While thus engaged, I beheld a spacious building standing opposite the valley which we were in, and it appeared to reach to the very heavens. It was full of doors and windows, and they were all filled with people, who were very finely dressed.

When these people observed us in the low valley, under the tree, they pointed the finger of scorn at us, and treated us with all manner of disrespect and contempt. But their contumely we utterly disregarded. I presently turned to my guide and inquired of him the meaning of the fruit that was so delicious.

He told me it was the pure love of God, shed abroad in the hearts of all those who love him, and keep his commandments. He then commanded me to go and bring the rest of my children. I told him that we were all there. 'No,' he replied, 'look yonder, you have two more, and you must bring them also.' Upon raising my eyes, I saw two small children, standing some distance off.

I immediately went to them, and brought them to the tree; upon which they commenced eating with the rest, and we all rejoiced together. The more we ate, the more we seemed to desire, until we even got down upon our knees and scooped it up, eating it by double handfuls.

After feasting in this manner a short time, I asked my guide what was the meaning of the spacious building which I saw. He replied, 'It is Babylon, it is Babylon, and it must fall. The people in the doors and windows are the inhabitants thereof, who scorn and despise the Saints of God because of their humility.' I soon awoke, clapping my hands together for joy."


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To: Graybeard58

http://truthinheart.com/EarlyOberlinCD/CD/Bunyan/text/Pilgrim.s.Progress/1.Entire.Book.html


41 posted on 02/29/2012 4:34:23 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Elsie

Tak skal du hav!


42 posted on 02/29/2012 6:06:20 AM PST by Utah Binger (Southern Utah where the world comes to see America)
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To: Graybeard58

what is your connection to Denmark?
Taler du Dansk?


43 posted on 02/29/2012 6:08:45 AM PST by Utah Binger (Southern Utah where the world comes to see America)
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To: Utah Binger
what is your connection to Denmark?

None at all. I was reading another source about Lucy Mack Smith's book and it linked to the source of this article.

This one is supposed to be the unsanitized version, that Brigham Young refused to be allowed to be published. He later heavily edited and then published this "History Of J. Smith"

This version, though I haven't read it all yet, is supposed to have a lot of criticism in it about Young and his minions.

44 posted on 02/29/2012 6:32:24 AM PST by Graybeard58 (Eccl 10 v. 19 A feast is made for laughter, and wine maketh merry: but money answereth all things.)
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To: Elsie

I never tire of reading that one.


45 posted on 02/29/2012 7:03:27 AM PST by annieokie
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To: Graybeard58; Utah Binger
This one is supposed to be the unsanitized version, that Brigham Young refused to be allowed to be published.

my understanding is that it's more complicated. unfortunately, i just had surgery and am pecking with one hand so i don't have the patience to write much.

young ordered one edition collected and destroyed; i have the desert news cite to young's order when i'm better.

however, all of the versions have undergone editing. here's a diagram prepared by one scholar:


46 posted on 02/29/2012 7:31:59 AM PST by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it)
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To: Scoutmaster

Peepstone profit placemarker


47 posted on 02/29/2012 9:06:44 AM PST by greyfoxx39 (If mormonism is Christianity, then "off" is a TV channel.)
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To: annieokie

“Thinking on this, it may be GODs will for this very large AntiChrist cult to finally be exposed, opened up and examined.”

I love this thought! Wouldn’t it be wonderful to rid our world of this?! Or a least for them to have to acknowledge that they a not Christian in anyway shape or form. I headed off a possible convert just last week..Of course they had no idea what was about to hit them!


48 posted on 02/29/2012 9:36:52 AM PST by PeachyKeen
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To: annieokie

If you do, let me know, and I’ll whip one up on anoter subject.

(At least it’s NEW to the lurkers we are gaining!)

The wifey just groans every time I tell one of my old jokes to a new waitress.

“You need to get some new material,” she complains.

“Not as long as I get new audiences”, says I!


49 posted on 02/29/2012 10:50:03 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: PeachyKeen
I headed off a possible convert just last week..Of course they had no idea what was about to hit them!

Luke 15:10 kjv

Likewise, I say unto you, there is joy in the presence of the angels of God over one sinner that repenteth.

50 posted on 02/29/2012 10:52:34 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Elsie
NO,NO,NO, I meant I LOVE IT. Keep posting it, sorry if you took that wrong.

The old hands here don't mind, but you will always have an audiance who have never seen it. I don't see how you could improve it.

51 posted on 02/29/2012 11:02:22 AM PST by annieokie
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To: PeachyKeen
Thank you, that is the way I see this. God does work in mysterious ways and uses people for HIS purpose.

Romney just got tagged, he's it. rofl. If he is the nominee this issue will blow wide open and he has no where to hide.

And don't think the Dems are beyond using this, they will crucify him. If a person will lie on the small thing how can he be trusted with the NATIONS problems?

52 posted on 02/29/2012 11:07:52 AM PST by annieokie
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To: annieokie

Yep, of course the Dems will use it as I think it is fair game..I really do. Let me just say, I’ll be very surprised if they don’t.


53 posted on 02/29/2012 11:15:43 AM PST by PeachyKeen
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To: annieokie
BIGGER fonts?

Wilder colors?

54 posted on 02/29/2012 11:32:10 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Elsie; PeachyKeen

James 5:

19 Brethren, if any of you do err from the truth, and one convert him;

20 Let him know, that he which converteth the sinner from the error of his way shall save a soul from death, and shall hide a multitude of sins.


55 posted on 02/29/2012 12:41:35 PM PST by Graybeard58 (Eccl 10 v. 19 A feast is made for laughter, and wine maketh merry: but money answereth all things.)
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To: Graybeard58

I just HAD to look up the last phrase in your tagline!!


56 posted on 02/29/2012 1:35:13 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Elsie
The very next verse answers the question of, where did the phrase, "a little birdie told me", come from? A phrase I heard from my mother repeatedly, while growing up.

Eccl 10:

20 Curse not the king, no not in thy thought; and curse not the rich in thy bedchamber: for a bird of the air shall carry the voice, and that which hath wings shall tell the matter.

57 posted on 02/29/2012 2:08:57 PM PST by Graybeard58 (Eccl 10 v. 19 A feast is made for laughter, and wine maketh merry: but money answereth all things.)
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To: Graybeard58; Utah Binger; greyfoxx39
an allegedly unabridged, unchanged copy of the original lucy mack smith manuscript of the biography of her son, joseph, jr., was published in 2001 as lucy's book, edited by Lavina Fielding Anderson. it's now out of print, but is available online here.

14% of the original manuscript was deleted before the first (orson pratt) edition. brigham young ordered that edition destroyed in 1865. copies survived. the first edition portrayed the smith family, including brigham young's rival william smith, as the legitimate leaders of mormonism, which (along with young's spat with orson pratt) is why historians speculate young ordered the book destroyed.

it wasn't published by the lds church again until it was published in installments in 1901-03, by the Improvement Era magazine, although parallel changes were made to the manuscript earlier by Smith and Campbell.

there have been sixteen+ editions of lucy mack which became more polished and added or deleted parts, depending on who was editor. also, bear in mind that lucy mack smith died in 1856, so every edition other than the original manuscript and the orson pratt edition, which was ordered destroyed, was edited after lucy's death. there was no way for preston nibley, for example, to interview her in 1945 and to add to her story. nor was there a way george smith and robert campbell to make 'first person voice' changes in utah after 1865. nor improvement era in 1901, arno press on 1969, proctor in 1996, and so on.

i've found one section from the nibley, ingleton, and proctor and editions to demonstrate how they may differ. i haven't found this section yet in the actual manuscript. from nibley (1945):

About this time a man by the name of Joseph Jackson, who had been in the city several months, being desirous to marry Lovina Smith, Hyrum's oldest daughter, asked her father if he was willing to receive him as a son-in-law. Being answered in the negative, he went and requested Joseph to use his influence in his favor. As Joseph refused to do that,he next applied to Law, who was our secret enemy, for assistance in stealing Lovina from her father, and from this time forth he continued seeking out our enemies, till he succeeded in getting a number to join him in a conspiracy to murder the whole Smith family. They commenced holding secret meetings, one of which was attended by a man named Eaton, who was our friend, and he exposed the plot.

ingleton's edition (2005) adds the following words after "stealing Lovina from her father":

Hiram heard of this and came to me several times for anxiety. He said he was alarmed about her; that he felt worse than he did when he was in prison.

The proctor edition (1996) says:

About this time a man by the name of Joseph Jackson, who had been in the city several months, asked Hiram for his daughter Lovina, for he wished to make a wife of her. Hyrum, not choosing to have his daughter marry a man who did not belong to the Church, refused for this and other reasons. Jackson then asked Joseph to use his influence with Hyrum to get the girl for him. As Joseph refused to do that, he next applied to Law, who was our secret enemy, for assistance in stealing Lovina from her father. Hyrum heard of this and came to me several times for advice. He said he was alarmed about her, that he felt worse than he did when he was in prison. Jackson went from one to another, wherever he could learn that anyone had any feelings against our family, till finally he succeeded in getting a number to join in a conspiracy to murder the whole Smith family. They commenced holding secret meetings, one of which was attended by a man named Eaton, who was our friend, and he exposed the plot.

bear in mind this is supposed to be lucy mack smith's first-person account, yet it changes. you should get an idea how the different editions of lucy mack smith's history differs from editor to editor. the ingleton edition (2005) wasn't on the diagram i posted above; it's an edition called "the unabridged original version." yet apparently it's not a reprint of the original manuscript. it's an edition which includes 'restored language and feeling through verification' to bring the narrative 'in line' with the manuscript. i'm not certain if that is different than just reprinting the manuscript, as lavina fielding anderson did with 'lucy's book.' but when you start talking about restoring feelings, it doesn't sound as if you simply published the old manuscript. i can't find the ingleton edition online.

58 posted on 02/29/2012 3:36:45 PM PST by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it)
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To: Scoutmaster
14% of the original manuscript was deleted before the first (orson pratt) edition.

 


 
Eerily familiar...
 
 

Party ownership of the print media
made it easy to manipulate public opinion,
and the film and radio carried the process further.


 



16. Ministry Of Truth

.......

The Ministry of Truth, Winston's place of work, contained, it was said, three thousand rooms above ground level, and corresponding ramifications below.

The Ministry of Truth concerned itself with Lies. Party ownership of the print media made it easy to manipulate public opinion, and the film and radio carried the process further.

The primary job of the Ministry of Truth was to supply the citizens of Oceania with newspapers, films, textbooks, telescreen programmes, plays, novels - with every conceivable kind of information, instruction, or entertainment, from a statue to a slogan, from a lyric poem to a biological treatise, and from a child's spelling-book to a Newspeak dictionary.

Winston worked in the RECORDS DEPARTMENT (a single branch of the Ministry of Truth) editing and writing for The Times. He dictated into a machine called a speakwrite. Winston would receive articles or news-items which for one reason or another it was thought necessary to alter, or, in Newspeak, rectify. If, for example, the Ministry of Plenty forecast a surplus, and in reality the result was grossly less, Winston's job was to change previous versions so the old version would agree with the new one. This process of continuous alteration was applied not only to newspapers, but to books, periodicals, pamphlets, posters, leaflets, films, sound-tracks, cartoons, photographs - to every kind of literature or documentation which might conceivably hold any political or ideological significance.

When his day's work started, Winston pulled the speakwrite towards him, blew the dust from its mouthpiece, and put on his spectacles. He dialed 'back numbers' on the telescreen and called for the appropriate issues of The Times, which slid out of the pneumatic tube after only a few minutes' delay. The messages he had received referred to articles or news-items which for one reason or another it was thought necessary to rectify.

In the walls of the cubicle there were three orifices. To the right of the speakwrite, a small pneumatic tube for written messages; to the left, a larger one for newspapers; and on the side wall, within easy reach of Winston's arm, a large oblong slit protected by a wire grating. This last was for the disposal of waste paper. Similar slits existed in thousands or tens of thousands throughout the building, not only in every room but at short intervals in every corridor. For some reason they were nicknamed memory holes. When one knew that any document was due for destruction, or even when one saw a scrap of waste paper lying about, it was an automatic action to lift the flap of the nearest memory hole and drop it in, whereupon it would be whirled away on a current of warm air to the enormous furnaces which were hidden somewhere in the recesses of the building.

As soon as Winston had dealt with each of the messages, he clipped his speakwritten corrections to the appropriate copy of The Times and pushed them into the pneumatic tube. Then, with a movement which was as nearly as possible unconscious, he crumpled up the original message and any notes that he himself had made, and dropped them into the memory hole to be devoured by the flames.

What happened in the unseen labyrinth to which the tubes led, he did not know in detail, but he did know in general terms. As soon as all the corrections which happened to be necessary in any particular number of The Times had been assembled and collated, that number would be reprinted, the original copy destroyed, and the corrected copy placed on the files in its stead.

In the cubicle next to him the little woman with sandy hair toiled day in day out, simply at tracking down and deleting from the Press the names of people who had been vaporized and were therefore considered never to have existed. And this hall, with its fifty workers or thereabouts, was only one-sub-section, a single cell, as it were, in the huge complexity of the Records Department. Beyond, above, below, were other swarms of workers engaged in an unimaginable multitude of jobs.

There were huge printing-shops and their sub editors, their typography experts, and their elaborately equipped studios for the faking of photographs. There was the tele-programmes section with its engineers, its producers and its teams of actors specially chosen for their skill in imitating voices; clerks whose job was simply to draw up lists of books and periodicals which were due for recall; vast repositories where the corrected documents were stored; and the hidden furnaces where the original copies were destroyed.

And somewhere or other, quite anonymous, there were the directing brains who co-ordinated the whole effort and laid down the lines of policy which made it necessary that this fragment of the past should be preserved, that one falsified, and the other rubbed out of existence.

 
 


59 posted on 02/29/2012 7:20:44 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Elsie
...clerks whose job was simply to draw up lists of books and periodicals which were due for recall...

HMMmm...

I've heard something like this about SLC lately...

60 posted on 02/29/2012 7:22:11 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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