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To: cuban leaf
An atheist is dangerous to his fellow man, because of his spiritual viewpoint. He is his own god. And that makes him seriously dangerous to mankind.

This is just absolute crap. You're demonstrating that you also don't understand atheism either.

An agnostic just isn’t sure. A Christian is, and an atheist is.

This whole idea of being "sure" is something you've invented in your mind. NOBODY is sure, and not being sure doesn't make you an agnostic, as I've already explained in detail; detail which you chose to ignore.

In your worldview, the non-believer is more dangerous than the child molester. While the child molester might violate the child in this life, a non-believer could state an opinion that changes your child's mind about Christianity, and damn their souls for eternity. You would then, by all rational accounts be justified in killing someone so dangerous, simply because they have a different opinion about the existence of God.

So no buddy, actually your viewpoint is more dangerous to mankind, and we have several millennia of religious wars, conflict, and genocide to prove it.

And don't regurgitate this crap about Pol Pot and Stalin killing in the name of atheism. They co-opted religious idealism and transplanted it to a cult of personality; Stalinism and the Khymer Rouge were religious fanatics, to the religion of the state.

I challenge you to tell me where men have committed genocide in the name of Einstein, Spinoza, Jefferson, Paine, and Carl Sagan. Don't look long, because you won't find them.

134 posted on 07/06/2012 3:22:22 PM PDT by GunRunner (***Not associated with any criminal actions anonymus by the ATF***)
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To: GunRunner

Lol, religious belief requires a deity, your Godless commie, amoral examples do not fit that bill. The bill they fit along with Mao, Lenin and Trotsky was atheistic murdering bastards who killed more human beings in a month than all religions combined killed in history.


138 posted on 07/06/2012 7:14:12 PM PDT by jwalsh07 (.)
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To: GunRunner
This is just absolute crap.

Opinions vary. ;-)

So no buddy, actually your viewpoint is more dangerous to mankind, and we have several millennia of religious wars, conflict, and genocide to prove it.

Like Pol Pot, Hitler, Stalin, Idi Amin and all the other despots of Africa and China? You will find that they killed far more than any did in the name of Christ. And those doing it in the name of Christ were going directly against Christ's teachings.

I challenge you to tell me where men have committed genocide in the name of Einstein, Spinoza, Jefferson, Paine, and Carl Sagan. Don't look long, because you won't find them.

Why would they? What does that have to do with atheism. And, as I said, an atheist's god is himself. If you want a list of powerful atheists who DID commit genocide, refer to my list above.

147 posted on 07/08/2012 9:40:49 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: GunRunner
In your worldview, the non-believer is more dangerous than the child molester.

Your comment makes no sense. The first part talks of what one believes while the last part talks of what one does. One can be both a non-believer AND a child molester. And none of my comments are about either. They are about atheist vs agnostic vs Christian. There is a fourth group: religious people who are not Christian. But that is a subject for a different thread.

148 posted on 07/08/2012 9:45:31 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: GunRunner; cuban leaf

Darwin, Nietshe, Marx and Freud were the big bangs of scientific materialism.

In the century before WWII, Nietsche predicted the cultural phenomenon he named the “death of God” would result make the upcoming century more bloody than all 18 centuries prededing it, combined. He was right. Darwin expressed the same opinion regarding the cultural effects of his own writings.

Hitler personally presented Darwin’s works to Mussolini and to Stalin.

Together they slaughtered tens of millions of innocent people. Here is the count of genocide by atheists and anti-Christians:

USSR: 61 million murders

Nazi Germany: 20 million

Communist China: 35.2 million

Communist Vietnam: 1.6 million

Communist Cambodia: 2 million

Anti-Christian Mexican Revolution in 1900-1920: 1.4 million murders

Compare these with the Spanish Inquisition, which was responsible for the killing of between 2 and 32 thousand people, and the “witch hunts” of religious fanatics who called themselves Christians killed about 50,000 people.

Atheism’s mistake is that it denies the transcendent basis for the life’s meaning and especially the intrinsic value of human life, leading to destruction, despair, murder and genocide.


151 posted on 07/09/2012 4:22:07 PM PDT by reasonisfaith (Why do you seek the living among the dead? (Luke 24:5))
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