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Pastor Lists 'Mormon Cult Errors,' Says Those Who Love Jesus Won't Vote Mormon
Christian Post ^
| Jan. 25, 2012
| Christine Thomasos
Posted on 02/19/2012 9:57:32 PM PST by Colofornian
An evangelical pastor who says his ministry's goal is "uniting the USA in Christ," has created a list of "5 Mormon Cult Errors" that he believes can help Christians from being "deceived" by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. He insists that those who "love Jesus" should not vote for a Mormon candidate, in this case, Mitt Romney.
Pastor Steven Andrew, head of USA Christian Ministries and author of the 2011 book, Making of a Strong Christian Nation, online list of alleged cult-like practices includes: 1). Mormons deny God; 2). Mormons preach a different gospel; 3). Mormons hide the Cross; 4). Mormons have occult practice; 5). Mormons are Anti-Christian." Andrew, who refers to Romney as "Mormon Romney," has previously called on Franklin Graham and Joel Osteen to repent for suggesting that Christians should have no issues with voting for a Mormon.
In his comments, Andrew takes President Barack Obama to task as well, expressing his doubts about the president's confessed Christian faith.
"If a Mormon or Obama wants to believe things contrary to God's Word, God let's them. But they shouldn't deceive others and say they are Christians," he said, adding that he believes the president has betrayed the United States and mismanaged finances.
"Barack Obama doesn't have God's love for Americans, (nor) does Obama want God's unalienable rights for Christian life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness," a statement on Andrew's USA Christian Ministries website read. "Obama betrayed the USA, seeks to remove freedoms and squandered $6-plus trillion that harms Americans, from the elderly to the youth."
Pastor Andrews told The Christian Post that he created the "5 Mormon Cult Errors" list after examining the issues taking place within the country.
"I'm very concerned for the United States that we have God's blessing. To have God's blessing we need to love God and obey him, because everybody wants us to recover economically and have freedom again," he said. "The Bible tells us that comes from loving God and obeying him."
Andrew said he hopes to educate people about Mormons having a different doctrine than Christians.
"I would like to see Christians understand that Mormons preach a different gospel, which is what apostle Paul warns in Galatians 1:9," Andrew said. "If you preach another gospel you are cursed. If we vote for a Mormon we're turning our back on Jesus Christ."
Nate Nielson, a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, addressed the public's concerns with Mormonism in an article titled "Are Mormons Christian?" The LDS article attempts to clarify the core beliefs of the Mormon church.
"For Latter-day Saints there is absolutely no equivocation on these central doctrinal points: Jesus Christ is the Son of God, sent to Earth to teach the truth and redeem mankind," Nielson writes. "He died on the cross and was literally resurrected three days later. He atoned for the sins of mankind."
Still, Andrew has questioned the religious texts that Mormons use in addition to the Bible, the belief that human beings can become godheads and differences taught in the Church of Latter Day Saints, doctrinal differences highlighted in a previous CP article examining the "cult" of Mormonism.
Some other differences noted by James Beverley, professor of Christian Thought and Ethics at Tyndale University, in his discussion with CP on Mormonism include the teaching that God used to be a man and grew up to be God, that Jesus is the product of Elohim (the God of this planet) and His wife, and that the true church is the LDS church.
Nielson, insists, however, that his faith has fundamental similarities to other Christian denominations, and that the differences between the Mormon church and other Christian denominations does not mean Latter-day Saints are not Christians.
"Mormons are not interested in parsing semantics or embracing the Nicene Creed or any other post-New Testament creed in order to be accepted by the world of Christian orthodoxy," he writes. "While there is more common ground between Mormons and creedal Christians than many realize, the differences are also substantial," Nielson writes.
"All Christians can acknowledge that the Lord offered two commandments as primary to love God and to love our neighbors. Doing so makes us followers of Christ, theological interpretations of doctrines notwithstanding."
In a similar argument, Paul de Vries, president of New York Divinity School, hesitates to call Mormonism a "cult" because of the faith's theological differences.
"What's wrong about Mormons doesn't make them a cult," de Vries previously told CP. "I think there's something wrong with what they believe I think there's something wrong with what Catholics believe but I don't consider them to be a cult."
However, Pastor Andrew insists that the substantial differences between Mormon presidential candidates like Mitt Romney and Christians are too great. The pastor said that voting for a Mormon candidate or those who are not following Christ could be harmful to America.
"I created this ("5 Mormon Cult Errors" list) for two reasons, politics is important right now. Yes this is political, and as Christians, Exodus 18:21 gives us an example of how we want to vote," Andrew told CP. "If you love Jesus then you won't vote for a Mormon. More importantly if you love Jesus Christ than you're going to vote for candidates that love him."
On his website, Andrews also provides a "Christian Voting Guide," in which he suggests that whomever Christians vote for should "rule" in reverence of God, be efficient and a person of truth, and hate bribery.
"If a person doesn't have all four qualities, they don't meet God's standard," Andrews insists.
TOPICS: Evangelical Christian; Other non-Christian; Religion & Politics; Theology
KEYWORDS: cult; inman; lds; mittromney; mormon; wehatemormons
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From the article:
Pastor Steven Andrew, head of USA Christian Ministries and author of the 2011 book, Making of a Strong Christian Nation, online list of alleged cult-like practices includes: 1). Mormons deny God; 2). Mormons preach a different gospel; 3). Mormons hide the Cross; 4). Mormons have occult practice; 5). Mormons are Anti-Christian."
For more on #5...see: If Mormonism is 'anti-Christian,' then how can it be considered 'Christian?'
For more on #4...re: Mormon occult connection...see all the links @ post #3 found at: BillionGraves Webinar to Highlight New Genealogy Technology [Lds obsession with the dead]
For more on #3, Lds' aversion to the cross, see:
* No-Cross Protocol ["New" Mormon tradition]
* Sunstone speaker attempts to explain LDS 'aversion' to cross [published by Mormon church owned Mormon Times]
For more on #2, the Mormon false "gospel" see post #2 here: The Mormon Plan of Eternal Progression
Do Mormon deny the ULTIMATE God? Yup! They don't even claim to know who He is...because they believe they worship a god who was the man who got their god-job from a "council of gods." Wanna know more...see posts #3, #5, #6 -- in Mormon leaders' own words -- here: Mormons reject core doctrines
From the article: Some other differences noted by James Beverley, professor of Christian Thought and Ethics at Tyndale University, in his discussion with CP on Mormonism include the teaching that God used to be a man and grew up to be God, that Jesus is the product of Elohim (the God of this planet) and His wife, and that the true church is the LDS church.
(Yeah, many of you didn't know, per Mormonism, that Mary wasn't the only "Mom" of Jesus...did ya?)
To: All
From the article:
In his comments, Andrew takes President Barack Obama to task as well, expressing his doubts about the president's confessed Christian faith. "If a Mormon or Obama wants to believe things contrary to God's Word, God let's them. But they shouldn't deceive others and say they are Christians," he said, adding that he believes the president has betrayed the United States and mismanaged finances. "Barack Obama doesn't have God's love for Americans, (nor) does Obama want God's unalienable rights for Christian life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness," a statement on Andrew's USA Christian Ministries website read. "Obama betrayed the USA, seeks to remove freedoms and squandered $6-plus trillion that harms Americans, from the elderly to the youth."America: Please don't let it come down to Obama vs. Obama lite (Mitt)
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posted on
02/19/2012 9:59:51 PM PST
by
Colofornian
( BTW, what IS your quota for candidates being able to mention God (theology), after all?)
To: Colofornian
I would vote for a half dead dog before I would vote for the socialist we have in the white house right now.
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posted on
02/19/2012 10:02:21 PM PST
by
oldenuff2no
(Rangers lead the way...... Delta, the original European home land security)
To: Colofornian
Pastor Lists Five Categories of 'Mormon Cult Errors,' Says Those Who Love Jesus Won't Vote Mormon *
* As you know, there are literally thousands of 'Mormon Cult Errors.' Most can be fit into the five general categories listed in your article. Therefore, I fixed its headline.
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posted on
02/19/2012 10:12:11 PM PST
by
Zakeet
(The idiot Obozo is to competent leadership as an Etch-A-Sketch is to art)
To: oldenuff2no
Thank you. I am not a Mormon and really have no love for that particular form of heresy. This much I know, the Founders made sure we did not have a religious test to hold office. If a Catholic can be President (and whatever the heck Obama is cause I can’t tell) then surely a Mormon can be president.
I really do not like it when someone tells me that “If I love Jesus, then....”. Fill in whatever blank you like. I know how to rightly divide the word and I know what God calls me to do. I do not need some yahoo with no understanding of the importance of this Constitutional republic telling me what I should do. If O gets another term this pastor won’t have a pulpit to preach from (if he is still allowed to preach that is)
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posted on
02/20/2012 12:16:05 AM PST
by
Nifster
To: Colofornian
If we vote for a Mormon person who used political office to promote $50 dollar on-demand abortions and to sanction and support a group that encourages children to embrace open homosexuality,
we're turning our back on Jesus Christ." There. Fixed it. Though Pastor Andrew may very well be correct on the Mormon aspect, as well. It never occured to me ... they do hide the cross, don't they?
Pastor Steven Andrew is doing the work a Pastor should do. God bless him!
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posted on
02/20/2012 12:21:23 AM PST
by
Finny
("Raise hell. Vote smart." -- Ted Nugent)
To: Colofornian
This guy is OBVIOUSLY a HATER!!!
5). Mormons are Anti-Christian.
Questions put to Joseph Smith: "'Do you believe the Bible?' [Smith:]'If we do, we are the only people under heaven that does, for there are none of the religious sects of the day that do'. When asked 'Will everybody be damned, but Mormons'? [Smith replied] 'Yes, and a great portion of them, unless they repent, and work righteousness." (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 119).
Joseph Smith: "for the teachers of religion of the different sects understood the same passages of scripture so differently as to destroy all confidence in settling the question by an appeal to the Bible" (from Pearl of Great Price 1:12). "What is it that inspires professors of Christianity generally with a hope of salvation? It is that smooth, sophisticated influence of the devil, by which he deceives the whole world" (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p.270).
Brigham Young stated this repeatedly: "When the light came to me I saw that all the so-called Christian world was grovelling in darkness" (Journal of Discourses 5:73); "The Christian world, so-called, are heathens as to the knowledge of the salvation of God" (Journal of Discourses 8:171); "With a regard to true theology, a more ignorant people never lived than the present so-called Christian world" (Journal of Discourses 8:199); "And who is there that acknowledges [God's] hand? ...You may wander east, west, north, and south, and you cannot find it in any church or government on the earth, except the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints" (Journal of Discourses , vol. 6, p.24); "Should you ask why we differ from other Christians, as they are called, it is simply because they are not Christians as the New Testament defines Christianity" (Journal of Discourses 10:230).
Orson Pratt proclaimed: "Both Catholics and Protestants are nothing less than the 'whore of Babylon' whom the Lord denounces by the mouth of John the Revelator as having corrupted all the earth by their fornications and wickedness. Any person who shall be so corrupt as to receive a holy ordinance of the Gospel from the ministers of any of these apostate churches will be sent down to hell with them, unless they repent" (The Seer, p. 255).
Orson Pratt also said: "This
great apostasy commenced about the close of the first century of the Christian era, and it has been waxing worse and worse from then until now" (
Journal of Discourses , vol.18, p.44) and: "But as there has been no Christian Church on the earth for a great many centuries past, until the present century, the people have lost sight of the pattern that God has given according to which the Christian Church should be established, and they have denominated a great variety of people Christian Churches, because they profess to be ...But there has been a long apostasy, during which the nations have been cursed with apostate churches in great abundance" (Journal of Discourses , 18:172).
President John Taylor stated: "Christianity...is a perfect pack of nonsense...the devil could not invent a better engine to spread his work than the Christianity of the nineteenth century." (Journal of Discourses , vol. 6, p.167); "Where shall we look for the true order or authority of God? It cannot be found in any nation of Christendom." (Journal of Discourses , 10:127).
James Talmage said: "A self-suggesting interpretation of history indicates that there has been a great departure from the way of salvation as laid down by the Savior, a universal apostasy from the Church of Christ". (A Study of the Articles of Faith, p.182).
President Joseph Fielding Smith said: "Doctrines were corrupted, authority lost, and a false order of religion took the place of the gospel of Jesus Christ, just as it had been the case in former dispensations, and the people were left in spiritual darkness." (Doctrines of Salvation, p.266). "For hundreds of years the world was wrapped in a veil of spiritual darkness, until there was not one fundamental truth belonging to the place of salvation ...Joseph Smith declared that in the year 1820 the Lord revealed to him that all the 'Christian' churches were in error, teaching for commandments the doctrines of men" (Doctrines of Salvation, vol. 3, p.282).
More recent statements by apostle Bruce McConkie are also very clear: "Apostasy was universal...And this darkness still prevails except among those who have come to a knowledge of the restored gospel" (Doctrines of Salvation, vol 3, p.265); "Thus the signs of the times include the prevailing apostate darkness in the sects of Christendom and in the religious world in general" (The Millennial Messiah, p.403); "a perverted Christianity holds sway among the so-called Christians of apostate Christendom" (Mormon Doctrine, p.132); "virtually all the millions of apostate Christendom have abased themselves before the mythical throne of a mythical Christ whom they vainly suppose to be a spirit essence who is incorporeal uncreated, immaterial and three-in-one with the Father and Holy Spirit" (Mormon Doctrine, p.269); "Gnosticism is one of the great pagan philosophies which antedated Christ and the Christian Era and which was later commingled with pure Christianity to form the apostate religion that has prevailed in the world since the early days of that era." (Mormon Doctrine, p.316).
President George Q. Cannon said: "After the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints was organized, there were only two churches upon the earth. They were known respectively as the Church of the Lamb of God and Babylon. The various organizations which are called churches throughout Christendom, though differing in their creeds and organizations, have one common origin. They all belong to Babylon" (Gospel Truth, p.324).
President Wilford Woodruff stated: "the Gospel of modern Christendom shuts up the Lord, and stops all communication with Him. I want nothing to do with such a Gospel, I would rather prefer the Gospel of the dark ages, so called" (Journal of Discourses , vol. 2, p.196).
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posted on
02/20/2012 3:33:00 AM PST
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
To: Colofornian
HOW can he CLAIM things like this???
4). Mormons have occult practice
GOOD Mormons are Temple Worthy - they pass this test EVERY year:
Temple Recommend Questions
1 Do you have faith in and a testimony of God the Eternal Father, His Son Jesus Christ, and the Holy Ghost?
2 Do you have a testimony of the Atonement of Christ and of His role as Savior and Redeemer?
3 Do you have a testimony of the restoration of the gospel in these the latter days?
4 Do you sustain the President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints as the Prophet, Seer, and Revelator and as the only person on the earth who possesses and is authorized to exercise all priesthood keys? Do you sustain members of the First Presidency and the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles as prophets, seers, and revelators? Do you sustain the other General Authorities and local authorities of the Church?
5 Do you live the law of chastity?
6 Is there anything in your conduct relating to members of your family that is not in harmony with the teachings of the Church?
7 Do you support, affiliate with, or agree with any group or individual whose teachings or practices are contrary to or oppose those accepted by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints?
8 Do you strive to keep the covenants you have made, to attend your sacrament and other meetings, and to keep your life in harmony with the laws and commandments of the gospel?
9 Are you honest in your dealings with your fellowmen?
10 Are you a full-tithe payer?
11 Do your keep the Word of Wisdom?
12 Do you have financial or other obligations to a former spouse or children? If yes, are you current in meeting those obligations?
13 If you have previously received your temple endowment:
Do you keep the covenants that you made in the temple? Do you wear the garment both night and day as instructed in the endowment and in accordance with the covenant you made in the temple?
14 Have there been any sins or misdeeds in your life that should have been resolved with priesthood authorities but have not been?
15 Do you consider yourself worthy to enter the Lord's house and participate in temple ordinances?
|
1 Timothy 4:1-2
1. The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons.
2. Such teachings come through hypocritical liars, whose consciences have been seared as with a hot iron.
1 Timothy 1:3-4
3. As I urged you when I went into Macedonia, stay there in Ephesus so that you may command certain men not to teach false doctrines any longer
4. nor to devote themselves to myths and endless genealogies. These promote controversies rather than God's work--which is by faith.
1 Timothy 6:3-5
3. If anyone teaches false doctrines and does not agree to the sound instruction of our Lord Jesus Christ and to godly teaching,
4. he is conceited and understands nothing. He has an unhealthy interest in controversies and quarrels about words that result in envy, strife, malicious talk, evil suspicions
5. and constant friction between men of corrupt mind, who have been robbed of the truth and who think that godliness is a means to financial gain.
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posted on
02/20/2012 3:35:39 AM PST
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
To: Colofornian
1 Timothy 4:3
They forbid people to marry and order them to abstain from certain foods, which God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and who know the truth.
THE
DOCTRINE AND COVENANTS
OF THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS
SECTION 89
Revelation given through Joseph Smith the Prophet, at Kirtland, Ohio, February 27, 1833. HC 1: 327329. As a consequence of the early brethren using tobacco in their meetings, the Prophet was led to ponder upon the matter; consequently he inquired of the Lord concerning it. This revelation, known as the Word of Wisdom, was the result. The first three verses were originally written as an inspired introduction and description by the Prophet.
19, Use of wine, strong drinks, tobacco, and hot drinks proscribed; 1017, Herbs, fruits, flesh, and grain are ordained for the use of man and of animals; 1821, Obedience to gospel law, including the Word of Wisdom, brings temporal and spiritual blessings.
1
A aWord OF Wisdom, for the benefit of the council of high priests, assembled in Kirtland, and the church, and also the saints in Zion
2 To be sent greeting; not by commandment or constraint, but by revelation and the
aword of wisdom, showing forth the order and
bwill of God in the temporal salvation of all saints in the last days
3 Given for a principle with
apromise, adapted to the capacity of the
bweak and the weakest of all
csaints, who are or can be called saints.
4 Behold, verily, thus saith the Lord unto you: In consequence of
aevils and designs which do and will exist in the hearts of
bconspiring men in the last days, I have
cwarned you, and forewarn you, by giving unto you this
word of wisdom by revelation
5 That inasmuch as
any man adrinketh bwine or strong drink among you, behold it is not good, neither meet in the sight of your Father, only in assembling yourselves together to offer up your sacraments before him.
6 And, behold, this should be wine, yea,
apure wine of the grape of the vine, of your own make.
7 And, again,
astrong drinks are not for the belly,
but for the washing of your bodies.
8 And again, tobacco is not for the
abody, neither for the belly, and is not good for man, but is an herb for bruises and all sick cattle, to be used with judgment and skill.
9 And again, hot drinks are not for the body or belly.
10 And again, verily I say unto you, all wholesome
aherbs God hath ordained for the constitution, nature, and use of man
11 Every herb in the season thereof, and every fruit in the season thereof; all these to be used with
aprudence and
bthanksgiving.
12 Yea,
aflesh also of
bbeasts and of the fowls of the air, I, the Lord, have ordained for the use of man with thanksgiving; nevertheless they are to be used
csparingly;
13 And it is pleasing unto me that they should not be
aused, only in times of winter, or of cold, or
bfamine.
14 All
agrain is ordained for the use of man and of beasts, to be the staff of life, not only for man but for the beasts of the field, and the fowls of heaven, and all wild animals that run or creep on the earth;
15 And
athese hath God made for the use of man only in times of famine and excess of hunger.
16 All grain is good for the
afood of man; as also the
bfruit of the vine; that which yieldeth fruit, whether in the ground or above the ground
17 Nevertheless, wheat for man, and corn for the ox, and oats for the horse, and rye for the fowls and for swine, and for all beasts of the field, and barley for all useful animals, and for mild drinks, as also other grain.
18 And all saints who remember to keep and do these sayings, walking in obedience to the commandments,
ashall receive
bhealth in their navel and marrow to their bones;
20 And shall
arun and not be
bweary, and shall walk and not faint.
21 And I, the Lord, give unto them a promise, that the
adestroying angel shall
bpass by them, as the children of Israel, and not slay them. Amen.
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posted on
02/20/2012 3:38:09 AM PST
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
To: oldenuff2no
2). Mormons preach a different gospelOf COURSE we do!
You 'christians' have a SHRUNKEN version of it.
Joseph Smith [pbuh] had delivered to him the FULLNESS of it; which we MORMONs want SO desperately to share with the world!
--MormonDude(I can get a Book of MORMON sent to your door!)
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posted on
02/20/2012 3:43:27 AM PST
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
To: Nifster
This much I know, the Founders made sure we did not have a religious test to hold office. True, but incomplete.
The GOVERNMENT makes no test.
Our wise FOUNDERS made no LIMITS on what 'tests' we VOTERS can make our selves.
I'm sure you are not advocating folks who DO 'love Jesus' to throw Him under the bus and select a person who evidently believes things quite contradictory to what the BIBLE clearly teachs to be the ONE to lead the COUNTRY that they, also, love so dearly.
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posted on
02/20/2012 3:47:17 AM PST
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
To: Nifster
I really do not like it when someone tells me that If I love Jesus, then.....I agree with your sentiment here.
It is a false assertion that makes NO sense LOGICALLY.
But; the populace of the United States of America has been SO dumbed down, that the usage of 'If A; then B' works to influence folks ALL the time.
Thank you Madison Avenue!
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posted on
02/20/2012 3:50:13 AM PST
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
To: Finny
("Raise hell. Vote smart." -- Ted Nugent) It's WORKING!!!
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posted on
02/20/2012 3:51:22 AM PST
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
To: Finny
If we vote for a Mormon person who used political office to promote $50 dollar on-demand abortions and to sanction and support a group that encourages children to embrace open homosexuality, we're turning our back on Jesus Christ." 1 Corinthians 6:9-11
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posted on
02/20/2012 3:52:16 AM PST
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
To: Finny
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posted on
02/20/2012 3:53:15 AM PST
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
To: Elsie
I can get a Book of MORMON sent to your door!Hecky durn!
We'll even DELIVER it!
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posted on
02/20/2012 3:55:52 AM PST
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
To: oldenuff2no
I would vote for a half dead dog before I would vote for the socialist we have in the white house right now.(Yeah, I know...you'd probably vote for Hitler, too, if he was running against a Democratic anti-Christ)
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posted on
02/20/2012 3:57:59 AM PST
by
Colofornian
( BTW, what IS your quota for candidates being able to mention God (theology), after all?)
To: Colofornian
Even if Mormonism is not within the mainstream of Christianity, there is no religious test for public office and the nation has done just fine in the past with non-Christian presidents.
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posted on
02/20/2012 4:30:27 AM PST
by
fso301
To: Colofornian
Woo Hoo...I have a real liking for the book of Galatians. Glad to see it quoted in this piece.
Paul demonstrated "Living through Faith."
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posted on
02/20/2012 5:36:06 AM PST
by
Tainan
(Cogito, ergo conservatus sum)
To: oldenuff2no
Exactly. I just thank God that I’m not a dogmatic religious goofball!
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posted on
02/20/2012 5:45:30 AM PST
by
sand lake bar
(You have not converted a man because you have silenced him.)
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