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To: ArrogantBustard

For some it seems their religion consists primarily of condemning and renouncing the Church, who, what, why, everything else is secondary.

The Church has many enemies today, radical secularism in the form of the Obama regime is just the latest most visible. The Church is the focus of the attack because it is the strongest, oldest and most predominant force in Christianity.

It is disheartening to see some conservatives join these enemies, apparently unaware they are furthering the same goals with the same ends.


200 posted on 02/14/2012 11:40:09 AM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: D-fendr

“For some it seems their religion consists primarily of condemning and renouncing the Church, who, what, why, everything else is secondary.”

I take it by “the Church,” you mean the Roman Catholic Church, and not the larger collection of all those who’ve been adopted into God’s family?

I think most of us are “condemning and renouncing” sexual predators among your leadership, and “condemning and renouncing” the protection of those leaders, and the tactic of deflecting criticism of these leaders.

Stories like the original post give opportunities to either 1) condemn this kind of behavior, or 2) defend the Roman Catholic system. Instead of defaulting to #2, why isn’t #1 the initial response of more Roman Catholics?


204 posted on 02/14/2012 11:53:23 AM PST by Theo (May Rome decrease and Christ increase.)
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To: D-fendr
Yes ... they appear to think "'Rome' is evil, all else is irrelevant".

It's sad, really.

206 posted on 02/14/2012 12:34:51 PM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: D-fendr; ArrogantBustard

Matthew 5:10-12
Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)

Blessed are they that suffer persecution for justice’ sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.

Blessed are ye when they shall revile you, and persecute you, and speak all that is evil against you, untruly, for my sake:

Be glad and rejoice, for your reward is very great in heaven. For so they persecuted the prophets that were before you.


212 posted on 02/14/2012 3:25:00 PM PST by boatbums (Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us. Titus 3:5)
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