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To: sayuncledave

I have a question, and thank-you ahead for your response. Can you best explain to me what the saying means, “Say the black, do the red.” (?)

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4 posted on 02/06/2012 3:26:34 AM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: Biggirl

Basically, priests use a prayer book (I believe it’s called the “Sacramentary” but I could be wrong) that lays out the Mass. Words to the prayers are in black, e.g. “The Lord be with you.” The actions they are supposed to take are in red, e.g. bow, elevate the host, make the sign of the cross, etc. Hence the expression.

Some priests have the annoying habit of improvising parts or all of the prayers to fit a given situation or just because they want to improvise.


5 posted on 02/06/2012 4:17:49 AM PST by perez24 (Dirty deeds, done dirt cheap.)
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To: Biggirl

Hi Biggirl,
I’ll do my best. The phrase is one I first read at Father Z’s What Does The Prayer Really Say, where he uses it to indicate that which a priest is supposed to do during the course of Mass, in reference to the Roman Missal. The black meaning those words to be pronounced, and the red for actions indicated. Father Z isn’t the only priest who writes about this, but his was the blog where I first read the phrase. A recent example:

http://wdtprs.com/blog/2012/02/action-item-poll-alert-should-priests-be-able-to-change-the-words-of-mass-when-he-wants-to/

I hope that helps.


11 posted on 02/06/2012 6:57:42 AM PST by sayuncledave (et Verbum caro factum est (And the Word was made flesh))
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