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To: stfassisi; caww
“”Origin’s non heretical teachings were valid and in line with the the majority of Church Fathers. Origen would have been a Saint if he did not stray into the belief of pre existence of souls.”” Are you willing to throw out Origen’s historical involvement in Scripture canon? He played a major rolen case you don’t know. Origen on the Canon http://www.bible-researcher.com/origen.html


You can't have it both ways . Origen was basically in not so many words accused of teaching reincarnation . Either he was teaching this or he was not . If he was teaching this he did not get this from the Holy Spirit . If he was not teaching this and he was accused of teaching this falsely then his accusers were not being led by the Holy Spirit. That either makes Origen a heretic that is teaching a form of gnosticism or it makes the council that accused him guilty of bearing false testimony against him. Either he was getting his information from some other spirit or he was not .


439 posted on 02/09/2012 9:00:37 AM PST by Lera
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To: Lera

Your argument makes no sense,dear friend

Falling into error does not cancel out the sound teachings and truthfulness one walked in before that point.

Origen is in the same boat as Luther in the Catholic view. Their pride in their personal beliefs caused them to separate themselves from the Church instead of humbly submitting to the teachings of the Church like many great Saints did


444 posted on 02/09/2012 11:26:04 AM PST by stfassisi ((The greatest gift God gives us is that of overcoming self"-St Francis Assisi)))
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