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To: stfassisi
What the Bible worshipers fail to recognize, or are afraid to seek the truth is that the Bible alone is not perfection because there is not even accurate translations that can be traced back from Jewish and Greek Scripture we think could be original. Thus, without historical tradition and the Magisterium the legs of the stool collapses without all three

Is there anywhere in the mind of a Church "worshipper" the thought that Christians who hold to the authority of Holy Scripture are not therefore "worshippers" of the Bible but are instead respectful and trusting instead and worship the true God who created the Bible? You make a claim that is NOT backed up by fact when you state:

there is not even accurate translations that can be traced back from Jewish and Greek Scripture we think could be original

This common atheist and skeptic argument has been disproven so many times there are literally hundreds if not thousands of articles around to do so. One, for example http://biblesanity.org/reliability.htm, from the book The New Evidence that Demands a Verdict shows:

PART ONE – BIBLIOGRAPHY TEST
Old Testament

Preservation – Most copies were buried in the dessert.

Accuracy – The Meticulous methodology of the Jews:

Scrolls were written with special ink on specially prepared skin.
Specified columns, specified spaces between letters
Special pen for writing the name of God
Scribes copied letter by letter, counted everything
3 Mistakes and the manuscript would be destroyed.

Proof – Dead Sea Scrolls - 1900 Year old copies found in a cave near the Dead Sea match almost exactly to 1000 year old copies we already had.

New Testament
Comparing copies of the New Testament to copies other historical "Classics"

Time between Original Writings and Earliest Copy

Aristotle Original Writing – 384-322 BC
Earliest Copy – 1100 AD
Time Span – 1,400 Years
New Testament
Original Writing – 48-96 AD
Earliest Copy – 125 AD, Whole NT 200 AD
Time Span – 75-100 Years
Number of Manuscripts
New Testament – 24,633 Manuscripts
Sophocles - 193
Aristotle – 49
Tacitus – 20
Caesar – 10
Aristophenes – 10

Another well done article online is http://themeliosproject.com/2010/02/07/reliability-of-the-scriptures/. There is much, much more to prove the reliability and trustworthiness of the Holy Bible for those who honestly want to know. For those more interested in upholding the other "two legs" of their imaginary stool, we can be sure their motives do not lean towards the glory of God.

278 posted on 02/07/2012 7:30:34 PM PST by boatbums (Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us. Titus 3:5)
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To: boatbums
Thank you for posting those links Boatbums.....am too tired tonight to check them out but have saved them for tomorrow after work. I have a family member who does believe in Christ but has a very science/ mathematic type mindset and we do get inot some interesting conversations on the reliability of the scriptures.

It's very interesting, especially today, that there are Christians and other faiths who seem to question the reliability of Gods word.....and of course satans most vicious attacks are to discredit it even if only causing one to doubt....then if he succeeds in making people doubt he's a long ways at introducing "other" than what God actually states....and this is how people do end up in cults and false religions....it's the first thing which leaves them open....doubt...and it was exactly what was used in the garden with eve....doubt God's word which he gave.

293 posted on 02/07/2012 11:32:01 PM PST by caww
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To: boatbums

I would love to see you show proof beyond a reasonable doubt that Scripture is 100 percent authentic.Every version has authenticity issues,including the Catholic ones.

None of this bothers me at all because I can see a flow of great unity for 2000 years of Catholicism and Church councils I believe are guided by the Holy Spirit to have dogmatic teachings that can never change regardless of even cafeteria Catholics who try and rail against this.

I’m fairly sure someone like you must be applauding the Catholic Church stand against Obamacare against abortion and contraceptives . These Catholic teachings are fixed teachings on morals that don’t exist within protestantism that can be changed within even mainstream protestantism.


330 posted on 02/08/2012 4:29:53 PM PST by stfassisi ((The greatest gift God gives us is that of overcoming self"-St Francis Assisi)))
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