“”Those who support their beliefs with carefully excised snippets of Scripture and who reject the teachings handed down by the Apostles, Apostolic Fathers and the Church Fathers leave no doubt about their beliefs vis a vis their own Magisterial authority. Usually any defense of this repellent and unScriptural self-determination of Christianity is immediately followed by blaming the Holy Spirit for their aberrent interpretations. “”
That is right,dear friend.
What the Bible worshipers fail to recognize, or are afraid to seek the truth is that the Bible alone is not perfection because there is not even accurate translations that can be traced back from Jewish and Greek Scripture we think could be original. Thus, without historical tradition and the Magisterium the legs of the stool collapses without all three
Good accurate article from UPENN
CHRISTIAN TRANSMISSION OF GREEK JEWISH SCRIPTURES:
A METHODOLOGICAL PROBE
http://ccat.sas.upenn.edu/gopher/other/journals/kraftpub/Transmission%20of%20Gk-Jewish%20Scriptures
Is there anywhere in the mind of a Church "worshipper" the thought that Christians who hold to the authority of Holy Scripture are not therefore "worshippers" of the Bible but are instead respectful and trusting instead and worship the true God who created the Bible? You make a claim that is NOT backed up by fact when you state:
there is not even accurate translations that can be traced back from Jewish and Greek Scripture we think could be original
This common atheist and skeptic argument has been disproven so many times there are literally hundreds if not thousands of articles around to do so. One, for example http://biblesanity.org/reliability.htm, from the book The New Evidence that Demands a Verdict shows:
PART ONE – BIBLIOGRAPHY TEST
Old Testament
Preservation – Most copies were buried in the dessert.
Accuracy – The Meticulous methodology of the Jews:
Scrolls were written with special ink on specially prepared skin.
Specified columns, specified spaces between letters
Special pen for writing the name of God
Scribes copied letter by letter, counted everything
3 Mistakes and the manuscript would be destroyed.
Proof – Dead Sea Scrolls - 1900 Year old copies found in a cave near the Dead Sea match almost exactly to 1000 year old copies we already had.
New Testament
Comparing copies of the New Testament to copies other historical "Classics"
Time between Original Writings and Earliest Copy
Aristotle Original Writing – 384-322 BC
Earliest Copy – 1100 AD
Time Span – 1,400 Years
New Testament
Original Writing – 48-96 AD
Earliest Copy – 125 AD, Whole NT 200 AD
Time Span – 75-100 Years
Number of Manuscripts
New Testament – 24,633 Manuscripts
Sophocles - 193
Aristotle – 49
Tacitus – 20
Caesar – 10
Aristophenes – 10
Another well done article online is http://themeliosproject.com/2010/02/07/reliability-of-the-scriptures/. There is much, much more to prove the reliability and trustworthiness of the Holy Bible for those who honestly want to know. For those more interested in upholding the other "two legs" of their imaginary stool, we can be sure their motives do not lean towards the glory of God.
Well, let's just see what Jesus has to say about that as well as the Bible itself:
The Bible says that the simple become wise through reading and applying God's Word.
"The law of the Lord IS PERFECT, reviving the soul. The statutes of the Lord are trustworthy, making wise the simple (Psl 19:7)."
The psalmist wrote.
"The unfolding of your words gives light; it gives understanding to the simple" (Pslm 119:130)
In a dialogue with the religious leaders Jesus said.
But regarding the resurrection of the dead, HAVE YOU NOT READ THAT WHICH WAS SPOKEN TO YOU BY GOD, saying (Math 22:31).
You never find Jesus saying the Scriptures were unclear about any subject..... He always assumed the problem was failure to accept what the Scripture clearly said.
On the same occasion, Jesus said to the religious leaders...and note it was to the religious leaders not the people he said this...important fact.
But Jesus answered and said to them,..... "You are mistaken, not understanding the Scriptures, or the power of God" (Matthew 22:29).
Whether speaking to the multitudes, His own disciples, or the religious authorities, Jesus assumed all of them could understand the Scripture.
There is also a spiritual dimension in the understanding of Scripture. Paul wrote.
Those who are unspiritual do not receive the gifts of God's Spirit, for they are foolishness to them, and they are unable to understand them because they are spiritually discerned (1 Cor 2:14).
Tthe Bible is written in such a way that it can be clearly understood, but those who are not willing to accept its truth will not appreciate the full importance of what it says.
Jesus said.
If anyone 'chooses' to do God's will, he will find out whether my teaching comes from God or whether I speak on my own (John 7;17)