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To: anglian; dangus

Bellarmine and other inquisitors only had the authority to judge Catholics. The antis wouldn’t be in that list. They’d have to answer to Puritans or Calvinists or Anglicans or Lutheran who meted out their own versions of the inquisitions in their time.


71 posted on 02/03/2012 3:28:39 AM PST by Cronos (Party like it's 12 20, 2012)
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To: Cronos

Menocchio, also known as Domenico Scandella, was a Friulian miller born in 1532 in the village of Montereale, twenty-five kilometers north of Pordenone. His philosophical teachings earned him the title of a heresiarch during the Inquisition and he was eventually burned at the stake in 1599, at the age of 67, on orders of Pope Clement VIII.

He was married and had eleven children.
Ginzburg’s book details the patient mechanism of the Inquisition in Counter Reformation Italy as it sought to eradicate suspected heresy and heretical groups rather in the same way that Stalin suspected counter-revolution everywhere.
The locals knew the sick sixty-seven-year-old well – he had long been a character in the local villages – being a miller by trade, a former mayor of nearby Montereale and an administrator of the parish church there. His name was Domenico Scandella but he was better known as Menocchio. With Giordano Bruno in far-off Rome, the virtually unknown and ill-educated old man shared the dangerous honour of being accused of heresy and of being burned alive. http://www.readysteadybook.com/BookReview.aspx?isbn=0801843871


73 posted on 02/03/2012 4:40:28 AM PST by anglian
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To: Cronos

Well, not exactly...

It’s true that the Inquisitors only went after people who were corrupting the church. You could believe and teach what you wanted to, so long as you didn’t claim that what you were teaching was the teaching the Catholic faith. No false advertising!

So Muslims and Jews were absolutely free to teach Islam and Judaism, under the law. The only ones who fell under the Inquisition were the conversos, who claimed to have converted to Catholicism, but sometimes only did so insincerely. And this is something which will never be clear from history: Islam teaches that taqqiyah, lying to assume power in an “infidel” state, is morally acceptable. So were the Muslims in Spain who claimed to be Christians doing it more out of fear of Christian vigilantes, or to promote Islamic beliefs within a Catholic state through sinister means?

The problem for Protestants is that they were not recognized as a separate church from the Catholics, and did, in fact, fall under the authority of the Inquisition.

On the other hand, the very first thing the proto-Calvinists (shall I call them Zwingliists?) did when they established a canon in Switzerland was prohibit the Catholic mass, and launch immediate wars against their neighboring Catholic canons. And Luther claimed to be a reforming Catholic, until long after he had gotten the various lords of Germany to side with the Muslims over Catholics, and suppress non-Lutherans in their fiefdoms. So I’m not shedding tears for them.


77 posted on 02/03/2012 6:23:26 AM PST by dangus
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