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Catholics, Get Ready to Suffer
NC Register ^ | January 31, 2012 | Matthew Archbold

Posted on 02/01/2012 3:38:01 PM PST by NYer

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To: anathemized
What are the “innovations” you are thinking of.

The innovations that Protestants claim were not in the original church:

1) Liturgical worship;

2) Belief that the bread and wine becomes the actual Body and Blood of our Lord;

3) Leadership by bishops as successors of the Apostles (i.e. not Sola Scriptura);

4) Need for post-baptismal Confession with sacramental absolution (i.e. not Sola Fide);

5) Invocation of the Saints.

There is no historical record that there were any protests when they were introduced at an alleged late date, despite the fact that everything else was debated quite openly. No, these Catholic practices were present in the Church from the beginning and accepted as non-controversial. The Protestant rejection of these practices appears only after a millennium and a half of church history. The church of the martyrs was Catholic.

81 posted on 02/02/2012 9:05:14 AM PST by Petrosius
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To: Quix
Perhaps you should figure out which of the things you like are real and which aren't rather than trying to determine the hearts of others.
82 posted on 02/02/2012 9:30:38 AM PST by Rashputin (Obama stark, raving, mad, and even his security people knowIf it.)
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To: Petrosius

Thank you for the list. I’ll have to do some study.

When you say they were present from the beginning, would you
provide a date to help me in the research?

I have to work now for a while and the study will take some time, so my response will be much later.


83 posted on 02/02/2012 9:47:00 AM PST by anathemized (cursed by some, blessed in Jesus)
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To: Quix; Melian; Amityschild; Captain Beyond; Cvengr; DvdMom; firebrand; GiovannaNicoletta; HossB86; ..

>> “It’s going to get difficult to live as a Catholic...” <<

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Not unless you want to both “live as a catholic” and also have eternal life. the two are pretty much mutually exclusive.


84 posted on 02/02/2012 10:13:08 AM PST by editor-surveyor (No Federal Sales Tax - No Way!)
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To: Petrosius
So you can supply no citation for your claim

!WRONG!

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Evidently your DAFFYNITIONARY does not distinguish between CAN'T and WON'T . . . again.

Fascinating

85 posted on 02/02/2012 10:29:15 AM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Rashputin

worm holes are everywhere. the flesh has no clue. God knows everything. we see through a glass darkly. The Holy Spirit in us reveals the truth. The truth is THE LORD JESUS CHRIST. What we think is real may not be. ET aliens are demons. The rapture may be today!


86 posted on 02/02/2012 10:33:40 AM PST by marbren (I do not know but, Thank God, God knows)
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To: metmom
!VERY ASTUTE ANALYSIS!

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87 posted on 02/02/2012 10:36:20 AM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Rashputin

All our hearts tend to be displayed by our words and actions.

Doesn’t even take much discernment, most of the time, to observe what’s going on within.


88 posted on 02/02/2012 10:37:46 AM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Farmer Dean
Catholics are 25 percent of the population.So don’t you get ready to suffer,get ready to fight back.

The majority of them voted for Obama.....

89 posted on 02/02/2012 10:41:30 AM PST by Gamecock (I am so thankful for [the] active obedience of Christ. No hope without it. JGM)
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To: All
It helps, in trying to make sense of some of the things which are said on this forum, to realize that a significant number of posters hereabouts, belong to religious professions which hold that the Pope is the Antichrist. Think about that for a moment. The Antichrist is the apex of evil on earth.

For a person who holds such teaching as true, it cannot but have consequences for how that person views Catholicism. This is not just a divergence of views on certain points of Christian dogma. It is much more. It is a sincere belief that the seat of evil abides within the Catholic Church. Not only does it mean that there will be little sympathy for Catholic struggles, it means that in any head-to-head confrontation between Catholicism and other perceived evils such as secular humanism, socialism, communism or Islam, the Catholic Church is the one you root for absolutely last or not at all. Hence, few tears are shed for the present plight of ancient Christian communities in the Middle East, for example.

One should therefore neither expect nor request moral nor material support from such quarters in the present HHS confrontation. That would be naive in the extreme. There's a school of thought, which is not insignificant in size, which says that whatever pain Catholicism experiences, it more than deserves.

90 posted on 02/02/2012 10:42:40 AM PST by marshmallow (.)
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To: Quix

Awesome!


91 posted on 02/02/2012 10:45:13 AM PST by hope
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To: ottbmare; Alamo-Girl; Amityschild; Captain Beyond; Cvengr; DvdMom; firebrand; GiovannaNicoletta; ...

Some of us have attempted to build bridges off and on for 10+ years between the camps.

There’s a rabid contingent of RC’s who will not remotely tolerate it.

Their choice.

At this point it’s a challenge to speak the truth in love with comparable emotional, intellectual and spiritual intensity to the horrific untruths and Biblical distortions, lies etc. propagandized by the RC’s

and

to do so graciously.

I’m not sure how possible that is. Sometimes, a way seems available. Often not.

The Rabid Clique type RC’s WILL NOT avoid harsh personal assaults.

On top of that, they WILL NOT avoid horrifically blasphemous and UNBiblical outrages that usually come across as also obnoxiously baiting.

Many frequently posting Proddys let a huge percentage of the outrages go by without mention. However, usually there’s some assertions by the RC’s that trigger a kind of Sampson response . . . where we begin to look for the jawbone of a donkey and start swinging . . . or we start overturning the tables in the temple to send the heresies flying.

WHENEVER the RC’s have behaved sensibly, we’ve more than matched them. It’s hard to think of that ever being the case on FR for more than several hours to a few days.

Some of us are capable of turning the other cheek for days to weeks or even longer. And have done so more than a time or two.

It doesn’t change anything.

The venom is always there, lurking—eager to spew at the least excuse.

So, I try and take as balanced approach as I can discern to do.

I turn the other cheek or ignore the outrages and the outrageously harsh personal assaults more often than not.

When the outrageous heretical etc. assertions get to be too intolerable, I try to write with a similar emotional, intellectual and spiritual intensity compared to the stimulus I’m responding to.

I try to use wit, humor, Scripture, logic, accurate history etc. out of a clean heart. I don’t want any RC to suffer for outrageous blasphemy etc. And I particularly don’t want any unwitting onlooker to think that because there’s no Proddy response or only a milque-toasty wimpy Proddy response that therefore, there’s something credible to the RC blasphemies and gross heresies.

We Proddys have to answer for whether we have provided to every man an answer as well as any other Christian does.


92 posted on 02/02/2012 10:51:28 AM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: hope

BLESSED BE THE NAME OF THE LORD.
BLESSED BE THE WAYS OF THE LORD.
BLESSED BE THE WORD OF THE LORD.

Thanks for your kind reply.


93 posted on 02/02/2012 10:55:29 AM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Hegewisch Dupa

Evidently you don’t look at our home pages.


94 posted on 02/02/2012 10:59:13 AM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: smvoice

Great points alright.

Folks who reject that Israelites are God’s Chosen and Christians are GRAFTED-IN

to that seed, bloodline, heritage, cohort . . .

are missing huge chunks of Biblical TRUTH.


95 posted on 02/02/2012 11:02:39 AM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Iscool
The RCC was the people in the stands, cheering on the lions...

LOL

Just when you think you've heard it all, another ridiculous accusation like this comes.

96 posted on 02/02/2012 11:19:08 AM PST by WPaCon
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To: Quix

Great Lion. Do you remember the poster( hang on the wall picture) of every name that means Jesus. Lion of Judah, wonderful counselor, etc etc... People would have that on the wall. It was beautiful. I had friends back in the day with that poster. It had several dozen names from the bible if I remember.


97 posted on 02/02/2012 11:23:37 AM PST by johngrace (I am a 1 John 4! Christian- declared at every Sunday Mass ,Divine Mercy <a and Rosary prayers!)
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To: Quix

Alpha and Omega /Rev 21:6
Bread of Life/John 6:35
Bridegroom/ Matt 9:15
Chief Cornerstone/Eph 2:20
Chief Shepherd/1 Pet 5:4
Christ/Matt 16:16
Firstborn from the Dead/Col 1:18
Good Shepherd/John 10:11
High Priest/Heb 3:1
Holy One Of God/Mark 1:24
Immanuel/Matt 1:23
Jesus/Matt 1:21
King of Kings Lord of Lords/Rev 19:16
Lamb of God /John 1:29
Light of the World/John 9:5
Lion From The Tribe Of Judah/Rev 5:5
Lord/Rom 10:9
Lord of Glory/1 Cor 2:8
Mediator/1 Tim 2:5
Messiah/Matt 16:16
Prophet/Luke 13:33
Rabbi-Teacher/John 3:2
Savior/John 4:42
Son Of David/Matt 9:27
Son Of God/John 20:31
Son Of Man/Matt 20:28
The Most Important Stone/ Eph 2:20
The One Who Raises Dead To Life/ John 11:25
The Word Of God/ Rev 19:13
Word/John 1:1
I am the Bread of Life/John 6:35
I am the Light of  the World/John 8:12
I am the Gate for the Sheep/John 10:7
I am the Good Shepherd/John 10:11,14
I am the Resurrection and the Life/John 11:25
I am the Way, The Truth and the Life/John 14:6
I am the True Vine/John 15:1,5
I am a King/ John 18:37


98 posted on 02/02/2012 11:24:39 AM PST by johngrace (I am a 1 John 4! Christian- declared at every Sunday Mass ,Divine Mercy <a and Rosary prayers!)
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To: Quix

And that is only the new testament. Alot in the old testament.


99 posted on 02/02/2012 11:26:23 AM PST by johngrace (I am a 1 John 4! Christian- declared at every Sunday Mass ,Divine Mercy <a and Rosary prayers!)
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To: marshmallow
Islam, the Catholic Church

Mary will bind both religions together during the tribulation. Faith IN The Lord Jesus Christ is all that matters during this age of grace we are in. Once the rapture happens everything will hit the fan. NOW is the time to accept Christ before it is too late.

100 posted on 02/02/2012 11:26:56 AM PST by marbren (I do not know but, Thank God, God knows)
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