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To: neverbluffer
>>Christ said to Peter... Upon this rock you should shall build my church!<<

The Rock the church is built on is Christ. Besides, later in that same conversation Jesus called Peter Satan.

62 posted on 01/14/2012 9:37:48 PM PST by CynicalBear
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To: CynicalBear

There you go.... picking versus at random.

Peter was still very human, subject to sin, and the influence of Our Enemy. Because, Peter, in trying to dissuade Jesus from the cross, came under the influence of Satan and tempted Jesus not to take up His cross, Jesus clearly perceived the true source of Peter’s seemingly compassionate words and denounces Satan and his influence on Peter.

“Get behind me Satan”. He was addressing Satan not calling Peter Satan. Then, speaking to Peter, Jesus says,
You are a stumbling block to me; you do not have in mind the things of God, but the things of men.”

This was Peter’s first lesson in learning how to discern the voice of Satan and the Voice of Christ.

Again, explain how there has been a Pope on record (recorded in history) ever since Peter? Was that just a coincidence?

No, Christ said to Peter, I confirm you, now you confirm your brethren...There was a Pope confirmed ever since Peter...

Sorry, but you cannot deny history!

Or, are you doeing the same thing with Church history as some do with US founding father history...


70 posted on 01/14/2012 9:48:17 PM PST by neverbluffer
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To: CynicalBear
I believe that your Bible may be erroneous in its translation.

Gospel John 1:35-42 ©
As John stood with two of his disciples, Jesus passed, and John stared hard at him and said, ‘Look, there is the lamb of God.’ Hearing this, the two disciples followed Jesus. Jesus turned round, saw them following and said, ‘What do you want?’ They answered, ‘Rabbi,’ – which means Teacher –’where do you live?’ ‘Come and see’ he replied; so they went and saw where he lived, and stayed with him the rest of that day. It was about the tenth hour.
  One of these two who became followers of Jesus after hearing what John had said was Andrew, the brother of Simon Peter. Early next morning, Andrew met his brother and said to him, ‘We have found the Messiah’ – which means the Christ – and he took Simon to Jesus. Jesus looked hard at him and said, ‘You are Simon son of John; you are to be called Cephas’ – meaning Rock.

85 posted on 01/14/2012 10:01:34 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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