Posted on 01/13/2012 4:43:10 AM PST by TSgt
FRiends,
Simple question to resolve a debate I'm having with a family member. How did David kill Goliath? Was it with the stone from his sling or with the sword when he cut off his head?
According to noted theologian Bob Marley...
“David slew Goliath with a sling and a stone;
Samson slew the Philistines with a donkey jawbone”
Think of it this way, a .357 Magnum produces 535 foot lbs., It is quite likely that David generated 600-650 foot lbs. Goliath died on his feet.
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LOL!
The giant would have been easy enough, just look up!
Yeah, it’s pretty amazing what a simple sling can do. The greeks and romans cast lead bullets, and engraved them with pithy quips like “catch”, and “take that”, or lightning bolts.
Wiki has the record for a rock thrown via sling being 1434 feet.
Freegards
My pastor stated last year that the rock hit with the force of a .45. It was considerably more as it turns out.
IIRC, the bullets made by the Greeks and Romans were actually looked like a double ended bullet and were most likely quite lethal.
As pistol shooters say “all we are doing is shooting a faster sling”. I didn’t completely understand that comment until I ran the ballistics on slinging. They’re right.
I recall a “sling shooter” video of some guy who was spot on everytime. Amazing video and fun to watch him. I think he lived on a mountain or something like. But he could do some real damage. I tend to think in that era , protecting the flocks from preditors and against robbers etc...they were likely sharp shooters with thier slings....or shooting stones even with their hands...Palestinians still use stones to this day.
Yeah, those sling bullets look like they would probably spin. They used to just raise kids up as slingers, like bowmen.
Here’s a website I came across years ago:
http://slinging.org/forum/YaBB.pl
They actually have a forum called “Project Goliath” that looks at the history of slings and slingers.
Freegards
I sort of regard them as a .357 mag without recoil.
www.slinging.org is extremely interesting. I have been there on occasion.
LOL. You can target shoot in your garage with the obnoxious neighbors in the backyard!
He “Clinked” him in the forehead w/ a rock(OK SMOOTH Stone) AND cut his head off as a PERMENANT “Good-Bye”!
Maybe Goliath received a mortal wound from the stone and was unconscious. Thus the stome could be said to have slain him. then David hurried the job along with the sword??
It has been my long experience here on FR that when an individual runs out of common sense, intelligence, logic - or all three - they most often fall back on personal attack in a feeble attempt to make some sort of arguement.
Thanks for proving my point yet again....and have a nice day!
“And you sir are just another theist spewing intolerance and insults. (Note that I did not gratuitously call you dumb.)”
Intolerance of the kind of idiocy you advocate is called having high standards...deal with it. Truth is not so much insults as a description of reality...deal with that as well atheist.
“”biblical evidence” to prove a biblical “fact” is a prime example - tho certainly not the only one - of using circular logic to prove a statement.
“Eye witness” “testimony”???? You’ve got to be kidding, right?? There is just so much wrong with that little piece of “proof” that there isn’t room here to write it all down.
And if using the bible to “prove” biblical “fact” is your only weapon....you’re un-armed.”
Prove it...why is it atheists insist on showing the world how utterly foolish they are? Is it genetic? Did their parents drop them on their head? What? It is absolutely baffling as to how they come up with their dogma and actually think they sound smart!
You do not read well for comprehension. I advocated nothing, simply reacted to your reply to another poster. You do not know my religious beliefs, simply make unfounded assumptions, another symptom of intolerance.
In fact, I am very much a theist. However, I claim no kinship to the likes of you. In another era, you would have struck flame to the fires to burn heretics.
“In fact, I am very much a theist. However, I claim no kinship to the likes of you. In another era, you would have struck flame to the fires to burn heretics.”
No, you definitely are not any kind of “kin” with me...you are just a little boy or girl...presumably with a tick problem...probably those pesky nerves. How foolish of a statement to make to someone you do not know...quite a stretch from a disagreement with a stranger to claiming that that individual would have “struck flame to the fires to burn heretics.” No, you are no kin of mine, my family are too well behaved, too smart and too good looking to have someone like you in amongst us. So, take your petty little statements and crawl back under the rock from whence you slithered out of... bye.
And where do you get off infering that I am an atheist? You don't even know me!
“Why are you engaging in personal attacks? I don’t believe you were attacked in any way? I don’t even know you!
And where do you get off infering that I am an atheist? You don’t even know me!”
I do not like rude behavior and your original post was both rude and ignorant. You still have not answered the questions of what exactly kind of “empirical evidence” you would deem acceptable. How you have empirical proof that the Bible is wrong in this matter...get off your intolerance and try discussing and I won’t slam you.
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