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The Question of Universal Salvation: Will All Be Saved?
Maronite Voice ^ | December 2011 | Fr. David A. Fisher

Posted on 01/12/2012 2:53:14 PM PST by NYer

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To: NYer

No.

The gift is free. But you have to ACCEPT it. It is not forced on you.


21 posted on 01/12/2012 4:42:34 PM PST by Little Ray (FOR the best Conservative in the Primary; AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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To: NYer
The Question of Universal Salvation: Will All Be Saved?
"There Can Be No Rupture in Salvation History" [Benedict XVI to Jewish Community in Germany]
The Catholic Teaching on Salvation by Faith Alone (Catholic / Orthodox Caucus)
Promising Salvation to Non-Catholics: A Sin against Charity
On Being Sober and Serious in Seeking Salvation
[CATHOLIC CAUCUS] Benedict XVI at Angelus: Mary's mission of salvation and intercession continues..
Finders Keepers? - The Evangelical notion that Christians can't lose their salvation is unbiblical.
Fresh Embrace of Everlasting Salvation [New Mass Translation Does Away With "Barbecue Talk"]

Marriage is instrument of salvation for society, declares Benedict XVI
Catholic and Protestant "Similarities" on Faith, Faith Alone, Salvation...
Radio Replies Second Volume - Salvation of the Soul
Catholic Biblical Apologetics: Salvation: A Biblical Portrait
Catholic Biblical Apologetics: Salvation: "Being Saved"
Catholic Biblical Apologetics: The Catholic Response to "Are You Saved?"
Catholic Biblical Apologetics: The Knowledge of Salvation
A note from Roy Schoeman... (author of 'Salvation is from the Jews')
Radio Replies First Volume - Grace and salvation
Radio Replies First Volume - "Outside the Church no salvation"

Salvation - Are You Saved?
No Salvation Outside the Church
Prayer the Great Means of Salvation: Ch.1: The Necessity of Prayer, Sect. 3 Invocation of the Saints
Prayer the Great Means of Salvation: Chapter 1: The Necessity of Prayer, Section 2
Prayer: The Great Means of Salvation and of Perfection Ch. 1: The Necessity of Prayer, Section 1
What does the Catholic Church mean by the phrase, "Outside the Church there is no salvation"
Christian, I Presume? (Salvation) [Ecumenical]
Rock Solid: The Salvation History of the Catholic Church [Ecumenical]
Who Can Be Saved?
Grace, Faith, and Works

Getting in Touch With Reality (good character and behavior as a ticket to Heaven)
My Personal Savior
The Early Church Fathers on Salvation Outside the Church [Catholic/Orthodox Caucus]
Extra ecclesiam - Outside the Church there is no salvation.M.a
Is Faith Necessary for Salvation? (Part 2)
Good Will Equals Salvation? (Did the pope say non christians could be saved - part 1)
The Experience of the Salvation of Christ Today
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Limbo and the Hope of Salvation

22 posted on 01/12/2012 5:06:20 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS

What of those Gentiles who lived before Christ died on the cross are those souls all foresaken with no chance of redemption?


23 posted on 01/12/2012 5:19:22 PM PST by reed13k (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothing.)
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To: NYer

Christ died for all. Receiving this free gift of salvation, it’s open to everyone. Not everyone will choose to receive the free gift, however.

Salvation is available to all, but not all are open to receiving salvation.


24 posted on 01/12/2012 5:50:31 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: NYer

Everyone can be Save but not all will be.


25 posted on 01/12/2012 6:49:57 PM PST by svcw (For the new year: you better toughen up, if you are going to continue to be stupid.)
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To: bibletruth
Matthew 7:21 "Not everyone who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. 22 Many will say to Me in that day, 'Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?' 23 And then I will declare to them, 'I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!'

Repent!

26 posted on 01/12/2012 9:42:37 PM PST by DaveMSmith (Evil Comes from Falsity, So Share the Truth)
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To: NYer; bibletruth; smvoice; johngrace; one Lord one faith one baptism
Some will not be redeemed. There is no doctrine which I would more willingly remove from Christianity than this, if it lay in my power - C. S. Lewis I'm with Lewis on this. I know well and understand the reaction of those who believe they are steadfastly definding Bible truth by insisting on eternal damnation. But what I find troubling is the lack of awe - even horror - that should accompany the realization that someone could spend eternity in Hell apart from God.

Instead, some reveal a flippant "sucks to be them" and "they're just getting what they deserve" callous attitude. Anyone having such an attitude would do well to examine their own Faith, for Jesus himself wept at the sight of Jerusalem, knowing the coming destruction of the city - and, yes, all the wicked and rebellious people living therein. We also read: "God is not willing that any should perish, but desires all to come to repentance."

Is this our attitude? Or are we gloating that we are on the "right side," and all those sinners are only getting what's coming to them. We refuse to face the fact that we are just as deserving of hell as anyone else, and it is only by the Grace of God that He has had mercy upon us.

Let our attitude be that of our Heavenly Father: "As surely as I live, declares the Sovereign LORD, I take no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but rather that they turn from their ways and live. Turn! Turn from your evil ways! Why will you die, people of Israel?" (Ezekiel 33:11)

27 posted on 01/12/2012 10:35:05 PM PST by tjd1454
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To: NYer
In 1 Corinthians 15:22, where Paul is working out the analogy between the first and second Adam: "As all die in Adam, so all will be made alive in Christ." In Romans 11:32, “God has imprisoned all in disobedience, that he may be merciful to all.” Also in Romans 5:18, "Just as one man's trespass led to condemnation for all, so one man's act of righteousness leads to justification and life for all." Possibly the most positive text in terms of universal salvation is 1 Corinthians 15:28. Here Paul says Christ will reign until "God has put all things in subjection under his feet…And when all things are made subject to the Son, then the Son himself will also be made subject to the Father, who has subjected all things to him; and thus God will be all in all." These words clearly do not allow for an eternal dualism that some of God's creation will be forever lost; rather they point to an ultimate reconciliation for all. "

Reliance on these verses as proof texts for universalism has been thouroughly refuted for some time. Dr. James White recently went over it in a lecture which can be downloaded at sermonaudio.com

28 posted on 01/13/2012 5:23:44 AM PST by circlecity
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To: NYer

As a New Year’s resolution, I have decided to answer every stupid question posed in headlines that I see on FR; usually without bothering to read the article because there is no need.

So: No, next question.


29 posted on 01/13/2012 5:29:21 AM PST by tnlibertarian (Things are so bad now, Kenyans are saying Obama was born in the USA.)
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To: NYer
Only God knows the intentions for evil in us and whether we truly love God.

He cast out the devil/angels in heaven, so I feel that he will cast out truly evil persons that do not love God.

I saw a three panel painting in France with the middle panel missing, but one panel was a glorious full of light looking upward towards heaven with a few people, while the other was very dark with many people tumbling downwards towards a fire (very dark, difficult and troubling to absorb).

I also had a friend that had a near death experience describe a similar situation where few were traveling upwards and many were going down (he described as raining cats and dogs).

Jesus has shown us the way with His Love for us, we need to Love Him back. He has suffered so much for us, and I can't imagine the hurt that he continues to suffer when we sin and reject HIs Love.

If we would only learn to accept and really Love GOD as he wants, we would be so much happier on earth and moreso in Heaven.

I just wish I could do more in letting others know (and convincing them) how much God loves them.

30 posted on 01/13/2012 7:25:50 AM PST by ADSUM (Body of Christ is the Church, gathered around the crucified risen Lord and fed by Him in Communion.)
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To: NYer

Deuteronomy 4:19 & Malachi 1:11.


31 posted on 01/13/2012 8:07:22 AM PST by onedoug
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To: tjd1454
Yes! I pray specific prayers for this not to be everyday. I have met people who need to know. I have witnessed .

Two would not say anything about Christ until lately. One would go crazy with hate if I mentioned Jesus. I would pray silently for him. I agreed i would not talk much about it in front of him. Slowly by silent prayers.

Now I have been praying for him openly. He has things happen now( coincide miracles) He sees nothing but Jesus in the matter. Always pray! God will move mountains. .

Praise Jesus!!

32 posted on 01/13/2012 12:52:40 PM PST by johngrace (I am a 1 John 4! Christian- declared at every Sunday Mass ,Divine Mercy and Rosary prayers!)
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To: reed13k

According to some the prechristian good are damned. I can’t find any direct statement to that effect. However, there are statements made by Christ that imply such an inference could rationally be made: i.e. “no man comes to the Father except through me..”


33 posted on 01/13/2012 1:28:56 PM PST by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: johngrace

Amen. May God bless you for your compassion for the lost, and for having a heart like our Heavenly Father, who desires that none should perish.


34 posted on 01/13/2012 3:26:02 PM PST by tjd1454
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To: tjd1454

Amen! back at You! Bro!


35 posted on 01/13/2012 3:36:34 PM PST by johngrace (I am a 1 John 4! Christian- declared at every Sunday Mass ,Divine Mercy and Rosary prayers!)
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To: NYer

If Hell is a lie, who originated that lie?


36 posted on 01/13/2012 3:53:37 PM PST by TradicalRC (Zero Debt Now.)
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To: ADSUM
I just wish I could do more in letting others know (and convincing them) how much God loves them.

God hates all who do iniquity (Psalm 5:5).

God is a righteous judge, and a God who is angry with the wicked everyday (Psalm 7:11).

We must be careful not to dictate to God that He must love everyone, and that He must love everyone the same. "Jacob I loved, but Esau I hated (Malachi 1:2-3; Romans 9:13). So then, He has mercy on whom He desires,and He hardens whom He desires" (Romans 9:18).

Consider how Proverbs 6:16-19 refutes the popular idea that God hates the sin, but loves the sinner. The text is a minute description of the person who does these things. And verse 19 leaves no doubt that God hates the person: "A false witness who utter lies, and one who spreads strife among brothers." Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners, not just make up for the sins they did.

37 posted on 01/14/2012 4:37:49 AM PST by good1
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To: NYer

If everyone eventually gets to Heaven then this makes Christ’s sacrifice of no effect.


38 posted on 01/14/2012 12:21:59 PM PST by thatjoeguy (MAYDAY! MAYDAY! We are so going in ! !)
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To: Little Ray
The gift is free. But you have to ACCEPT it. It is not forced on you.

Would love to know what you do with Acts 13:48
39 posted on 01/14/2012 1:29:13 PM PST by armydoc
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To: armydoc

Don’t see any problems there, actually.


40 posted on 01/14/2012 4:15:47 PM PST by Little Ray (FOR the best Conservative in the Primary; AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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