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To: Theo; don-o; Al Hitan
Oh, and no-one's attacking you. Folks just point out how you can benefit by reading the Bible.

If one has a victim mentality and keeps saying "oh, they won't share communion with me" while at the same time insisting that the communion does not have the True presence of Christ, that's kind of contradictory. Note that even Lutherans who believe in the True Presence of Christ in the Eucharist as in WELS have a closed communion.

No one curses you for your beliefs -- you want to reject God's word in John 6, go ahead, it's your choice.

117 posted on 01/04/2012 9:28:34 AM PST by Cronos (Party like it's 12 20, 2012)
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To: Cronos; Theo; don-o; Al Hitan
I recognize my Catholic family members as my siblings in Christ and it truly bothers me that I am denied the cup and bread when I attend Mass because of the doctrine of "closed communion."

I have heard the closed communion explanation before (and the close communion explanation from Lutherans) - but it doesn't satisfy because the priest or minister cannot know the mind and heart of the ones who do or do not partake of the cup and the bread.

But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of [that] bread, and drink of [that] cup. - I Cor 11:28

I don't wish to derail this thread into a sidebar on closed communions except to add that discerning the body of Christ also means recognizing our brothers and sisters in Him.

From Corinthians in context:

Moreover, brethren, I would not that ye should be ignorant, how that all our fathers were under the cloud, and all passed through the sea; And were all baptized unto Moses in the cloud and in the sea; And did all eat the same spiritual meat; And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ. – 1 Cor 10:1-4

The cup of blessing which we bless, is it not the communion of the blood of Christ? The bread which we break, is it not the communion of the body of Christ? For we [being] many are one bread, [and] one body: for we are all partakers of that one bread. – I Cor 10:16-17

For I have received of the Lord that which also I delivered unto you, That the Lord Jesus the [same] night in which he was betrayed took bread: And when he had given thanks, he brake [it], and said, Take, eat: this is my body, which is broken for you: this do in remembrance of me. After the same manner also [he took] the cup, when he had supped, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood: this do ye, as oft as ye drink [it], in remembrance of me. For as often as ye eat this bread, and drink this cup, ye do shew the Lord's death till he come. – I Cor 11:23-26

But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of [that] bread, and drink of [that] cup. For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord's body. For this cause many [are] weak and sickly among you, and many sleep. For if we would judge ourselves, we should not be judged. But when we are judged, we are chastened of the Lord, that we should not be condemned with the world. - I Cor 11:28-32

For as the body is one, and hath many members, and all the members of that one body, being many, are one body: so also [is] Christ. For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether [we be] Jews or Gentiles, whether [we be] bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit. For the body is not one member, but many. - I Cor 12:12-14

Now ye are the body of Christ, and members in particular. – I Cor 12:27

And again,

[There is] one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling; - Ephesians 4:4

For we are members of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones. – Ephesians 5:30

And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all [things] he might have the preeminence. – Colossians 1:18

For as we have many members in one body, and all members have not the same office: So we, [being] many, are one body in Christ, and every one members one of another. – Romans 12:4-5

I don't have to agree with you on every little thing to recognize Christ in you.

God's Name is I AM.

145 posted on 01/04/2012 10:09:43 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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